WTF has happened in Scotland?

Pasty

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Location
Devon
The question is would the gnomes in Zurich etc regard us as a good bet or a basket case. EU would certainly treat us the same way as PIGS Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain. Once interest rates go over 11% its unsustainable. Maybe less in the new interest levels we are used to. Do we really want 30% youth unemployment as in Greece and 3 generations of family living in the one house on the grandparents pension. Run me the numbers to say that won't happen and I might go along with you.
As an avid RT Ruski TV watcher Max Keiser especially as an ex banker he says that total world debt should be no more than total assets they are secured against. Sadly financial engineering by goldmine sax other vultures and vampires have now created more debt than assets. Another crash waiting to happen??? Followed him on Oil futures and Bitcoin to name two and have done extremely well from that advice so am covering myself for this forthcoming armageddon???
Max and Stacy are the future. The other day he was breastfeeding a wooden swan or some such. But he's got more money than God.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
Tried to imprison an innocent man ,bit more serious than a squabble .

It seems to be all about technicalities and whether procedural rules were followed. I find it strange that Salmond got away with the original charges put forward by 10 different women. Even though he admitted he was a bit of a molester of young women when he had had a few drinks. A case of not proven I guess. :scratchhead:
 

robs1

Member
It seems to be all about technicalities and whether procedural rules were followed. I find it strange that Salmond got away with the original charges put forward by 10 different women. Even though he admitted he was a bit of a molester of young women when he had had a few drinks. A case of not proven I guess. :scratchhead:
He is a slime ball of the highest order, he always seems to have an unpleasant smirk on his face, he and NS are worthy of each other
 

tje

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North Hampshire
It's nothing about technicalities and procedural rules ..

The main issue did the Scottish police and justice department try and "fit up " Alex Salmon for political purposes and on who's orders ...as far as I can see there are very little checks and balances in the scottish government .( Another balls up by Tony Blair )

The main case of attempted rape he was found innocent because a third party told the court his accuser was in a different location to which his accuser claimed ...in short she lied .. that's innocent not not proven .To be honest she ought to be on trial for perjury .

The other charges were also dismissed ..



Alex Salmon was awarded 500,000 in damages ....



It seems to be all about technicalities and whether procedural rules were followed. I find it strange that Salmond got away with the original charges put forward by 10 different women. Even though he admitted he was a bit of a molester of young women when he had had a few drinks. A case of not proven I guess. :scratchhead:
 

toquark

Member
With Scotland being effectively a one party state, the senior civil service (and Lord advocate) are selected or vetted either directly by the ministers or their apparatchiks. They’ve stuffed the civil service with yes-men, if your political position doesn’t fit, you don't progress. I witnessed this personally on a number of occasions when I worked for the civil service. We are not far away from sending dissidents for “re-education”.
 
Andrew Neils' article in the Mail today summed up exactly why I as an SNP supporter and voter for many years had to bite my lip and vote Tory in the last election and will not vote for SNP in May. As he stated banana republic without the bananas and he is Scottish. I voted Brexit specifically to get rid of god knows how many extra layers of civil cockroaches. Unfortunately our one party state has now got the same smell as Zimbabwe or Dubai.
 

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
It's nothing about technicalities and procedural rules ..

The main issue did the Scottish police and justice department try and "fit up " Alex Salmon for political purposes and on who's orders ...as far as I can see there are very little checks and balances in the scottish government .( Another balls up by Tony Blair )

The other charges were also dismissed ..
Alex Salmon was awarded 500,000 in damages ....
Strictly speaking that sum was his legal bill.
The scandal is that the government legal team took it so far before admitting that the investigation into his behaviour was flawed.
We also have £20m awarded from the taxpayer to the Rangers liquidators for what was reported as a malicious prosecution yet apparently nobody was actually responsible for it with another 7 individuals lining up for millions more compensation.
£100m of rusting ferries, a kids hospital 2 years unopened, education standards slipping, no domestic yards left solvent for the renewables boom, the highest European drug deaths, massive childhood poverty, foodbanks and a refusal to release documents to an inquiry into whether the government conspired to have someone jailed.
The quicker we get independence and are allowed to sort all these devolved problems the better.

Aye, right.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
He is a slime ball of the highest order, he always seems to have an unpleasant smirk on his face, he and NS are worthy of each other

The very fact Salmond is the voice of the Kremlin in the UK along with Farage should have them branded as traitors as well as slime balls. Regarding NS, Bozza is desperate to try a discredit her in any way he can, otherwise he knows the breakup of the UK will be putdown as another one of his great achievements. :banghead:
 

toquark

Member
The very fact Salmond is the voice of the Kremlin in the UK along with Farage should have them branded as traitors as well as slime balls. Regarding NS, Bozza is desperate to try a discredit her in any way he can, otherwise he knows the breakup of the UK will be putdown as another one of his great achievements. :banghead:
It has nothing to do with Boris. Any discrediting has been entirely generated by the SNP.
 
The very fact Salmond is the voice of the Kremlin in the UK along with Farage should have them branded as traitors as well as slime balls. Regarding NS, Bozza is desperate to try a discredit her in any way he can, otherwise he knows the breakup of the UK will be putdown as another one of his great achievements. :banghead:
RT is the alternative view. Just slightly more occasionally propaganda than the BBC ITV etc. This is a fundamental of free speech. It is just like watching comical Ali on Iraq TV at times. The answer from our press is always to refer to Putin as Vlad the poisoner. The way to p#ss off anybody in power is to laugh at them. They always want to be taken seriously and the sooner the woke beeb start more satirical shows like spitting image the better. The Russian people would love it as it would undermine Vlad big time and it would be an eye opener for the blind supporters.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
RT is the alternative view. Just slightly more occasionally propaganda than the BBC ITV etc. This is a fundamental of free speech. It is just like watching comical Ali on Iraq TV at times. The answer from our press is always to refer to Putin as Vlad the poisoner. The way to p#ss off anybody in power is to laugh at them. They always want to be taken seriously and the sooner the woke beeb start more satirical shows like spitting image the better. The Russian people would love it as it would undermine Vlad big time and it would be an eye opener for the blind supporters.

RT Russia Today is totally financed by the Kremlin:-
Overall, we rate RT Questionable based on promoting pro-Russian propaganda, promotion of conspiracy theories, numerous failed fact checks, and a lack of author transparency.
 

Pasty

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Location
Devon
RT Russia Today is totally financed by the Kremlin:-
Overall, we rate RT Questionable based on promoting pro-Russian propaganda, promotion of conspiracy theories, numerous failed fact checks, and a lack of author transparency.
There is that 'fact check' thing again which usually means 'no, you are wrong, that never happened, be quiet'. BBC are worst for that nonsense.
 

X344chap

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Central Scotland
Strictly speaking that sum was his legal bill.
The scandal is that the government legal team took it so far before admitting that the investigation into his behaviour was flawed.
We also have £20m awarded from the taxpayer to the Rangers liquidators for what was reported as a malicious prosecution yet apparently nobody was actually responsible for it with another 7 individuals lining up for millions more compensation.
£100m of rusting ferries, a kids hospital 2 years unopened, education standards slipping, no domestic yards left solvent for the renewables boom, the highest European drug deaths, massive childhood poverty, foodbanks and a refusal to release documents to an inquiry into whether the government conspired to have someone jailed.
The quicker we get independence and are allowed to sort all these devolved problems the better.

Aye, right.
Dont disagree with much that you say - although the point i would make is that not being able to control the economy puts a limit on what you can usefully do. The adversarial political environment in Scotland is unhelpful as well. In an independent Scotland i'd like to see a parliament of independents who are focussed on doing what is best for Scotland and its people and not focussed on saying no - if the other party says yes and vice versa.
 

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
That would be good but politics will always attract opinionated adversarial people brought up in debating societies.
I could argue that there is a reasonable balance at present but the SNP always holds the whip hand and effectively anything can be voted through by 6 (almost unelected) Green MSPs.
 

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