WW T2

I know it fly's in the face of modern thinking but I work for a business man we have some really dirty fields of wheat ie Blackgrass and Ryegrass which I would was educated to not tolerate.but he thinks differently to me it will really knock the yield ( yes I know it's all wrong ) but I just wondered whether it's worth spending so much on when we will never see a return on investment
Weed wiper it on skinny row crops
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
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Suffolk
It so depends on the variety and what disease potential there is. T2 is the most cost efficient timing, but if there is not any disease present and the weather looks dry, why bother on crops that aren’t going to give a decent yield?

If there is disease present and the variety is susceptible, then give it a suitable rate of T2 to control the disease and provide some future protection, then shut the gate. T3’s are the least most cost effective unless it suddenly turns wet in June.

If the crop never looked promising earlier, but was disease free, hopefully you didn’t bother with a T1 and certainly not a T0.


Funny how we spend so much time talking about fungicides, when in reality they are the least most cost effective products we put through the sprayer, unless disease pressures are high.
We seem obsessed with the T timings. T0 is probable a waste of time now we have lost CTL. Only bother with a T1 as long as the crop has potential. As long as there is at leat some potential give it a T2 and only a T3 if there is potential and threatening wet weather in June.
If you have a particularly disease resistant variety, you’d be amazed how well it will do without much, if any fungicides, unless it is a particularly wet weather year.
This is so true, so much time, though, magazine space etc etc goes into wheat fungicides. When basically most still end up doing the same thing every year perhaps with just a newer fungicide.
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
This is so true, so much time, though, magazine space etc etc goes into wheat fungicides. When basically most still end up doing the same thing every year perhaps with just a newer fungicide.
I would suggest that in many ways, Fungicide promotion has been a hugely successful “propaganda’’ tool by the big companies. Companies such as Syngenta, have been very clever with their Fungicide Challenge events.
Ours here, consistently showed that they are merely an insurance, rather than essential. In dry years, most groups over-spent. Only in wet years and particularly very wet years, do they pay well. Funny though, how Synhenta’s own program nearly always seemed to win!
Very cleverly, we have been lead to believe that if we don’t stick to the rigid T programs, wheat will yield nothing!

We absolutely cannot avoid controlling weeds. Yet promotion of Fungicides seems to outweigh Herbicides. The one we can’t avoid doesn’t need so much promotion. The one not so essential gets pushed to make sure we keep up the spend.
 

T Hectares

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Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
our problem or should I say my problem is my employer likes milling wheats mainly Skyfall and Zyatt both yellow rust varieties and yellow rust has been and still is present so T0 T 1 have been aimed at this so I can see a payback and I will include teb at T 2 but what to partner it with ? Folpet prosaro and ???
I’d be looking at Elatus era on a bad rust variety
 

Bigjon44

Member
Yeah my skyfall is starting to show signs of it in places.may be the last year of that for me too!!!
Prob be all beans this coming autumn anyway!!!!!!
 

casemx 270

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Location
East midlands
I ve got one particular field I was late putting the T0 on teb when I went back to put the T1 I could see quite bad patches of yellow rust so when the weather allows I was going to do a T1.5 of teb so it's very persistent
 

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