xbred dairy bull calves

[betweenthelines]

Look at the length of the legs on the Jerseys calf! Must have been sired by a stallion from the Flete stables!

 

[O'Reilly]

I have sone sympathy with what you are saying. However we have a neighbour who buys Angus cross calves out of our Kiwi cross cows. He rears them to large stores and makes good money as the inputs are so low. They are never housed, never ill and bred to graze grass. Calves are cheaper than larger angus crosses out of holsteins but do so much better.

Having said that we are now using sexed Irish Friesian so in future they will probably produce even better calves.

So really it's about sharing best practice for utilising this type of animal. Perhaps ahdb could do something, not that many would listen any way.

 

[Beef farmer]

We can all agree mother is a monkey bred mongrel

 

[Cows 'n grass]

We can all agree mother is a monkey bred mongrel View attachment 829360

Best shoot that calf quick then. That's probably the heaviest it'll ever be.

 

[Beef farmer]

 

[Beef farmer]

The same one as the pic yesterday. 100 quid each guth there yours.

 

[unlacedgecko]

The same one as the pic yesterday. 100 quid each guth there yours.View attachment 829364

That's a fair price for the cow. What you paying me to take the calf as well?

 

[cull cows]

The same one as the pic yesterday. 100 quid each guth there yours.View attachment 829364

Nice calves they are ?

 

[Beef farmer]

Mongrels just keep on giving

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Jersey cross Holstein friesian steers we kept out of some bought in cows. My first thoughts were send them for veal but I like to give everything a chance if they will be worth anything end of the day I don’t know if not they will fill the freezer up if nothing else.

 

[vantage]

Jersey cross Holstein friesian steers we kept out of some bought in cows. My first thoughts were send them for veal but I like to give everything a chance if they will be worth anything end of the day I don’t know if not they will fill the freezer up if nothing else.
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You’ll be sick of eating beef after the first two, only another 50 to go!

 

[Bossfarmer]

Beef is in oversupply currently hence why the deadweight price is circa very low at £3.20 kilo, was only 6 weeks ago that there was a 5 week waiting list to get beef cattle into the plants!

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To make it easier for you to understand why no beef farmers want these NZ mongrels this is an example: Would you buy a large milking cow that will only give you 3000 litres a year and cost more than what she earns in milk sales or buy a cow with much better breeding that will give you 6000 litres a year but still cost the same to keep??

Because these NZ mongrels will cost the same to rear/ feed and possible eat more to finish at 250 kilos dead than a well bred BF bull calve will do and it will kill at 380 kilos dead and be at least 1 or two grades better than the NZ mongrel.

Hence why would you keep the NZ mongrel for beef when it will cost as much to farm as a Fri x calve that will come to a lot more money when they are hung up?

what is a NZ mongeral? a jersey crossed to beef? ive reared good calves in the past lim out a holstein did well as stores at 500kg

 

[jimmer]

what is a NZ mongeral? a jersey crossed to beef? ive reared good calves in the past lim out a holstein did well as stores at 500kg

NZ mongeral is a very well muscled beef breed originating from the southern hemisphere with marbling like a wagyu.
Their seasonal fertility means they are more likely to calve in the spring, and do really well in slightly colder climates like Northern England and Scotland

 

[Bossfarmer]

NZ mongeral is a very well muscled beef breed originating from the southern hemisphere with marbling like a wagyu.
Their seasonal fertility means they are more likely to calve in the spring, and do really well in slightly colder climates like Northern England and Scotland

Wind up surely

 

[dinderleat]

Wind up surely

I think he is totally serious

 

[jimmer]

Wind up surely

Nope

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Reckon the future will be sexed semen and “cheap” beef embryos for the big boys over here.

Ill suited to a smaller or block calving operation but likely for the best on a place churning out 15-30 calves 365 days a year.

Depending of quantity purchased I’m told you can get black angus embryos for $25-$35 each. Compared to $3 semen it’s definitely a big step up but produces a calf worth more.

 

[Homesy]

Reckon the future will be sexed semen and “cheap” beef embryos for the big boys over here.

Ill suited to a smaller or block calving operation but likely for the best on a place churning out 15-30 calves 365 days a year.

Depending of quantity purchased I’m told you can get black angus embryos for $25-$35 each. Compared to $3 semen it’s definitely a big step up but produces a calf worth more.

$3 dollar semen ? That's less than half we pay for mediocre bulls.

 

[dinderleat]

Reckon the future will be sexed semen and “cheap” beef embryos for the big boys over here.

Ill suited to a smaller or block calving operation but likely for the best on a place churning out 15-30 calves 365 days a year.

Depending of quantity purchased I’m told you can get black angus embryos for $25-$35 each. Compared to $3 semen it’s definitely a big step up but produces a calf worth more.

Conception rates are said to be higher aswell

 

[pine_guy]

Reckon the future will be sexed semen and “cheap” beef embryos for the big boys over here.

Ill suited to a smaller or block calving operation but likely for the best on a place churning out 15-30 calves 365 days a year.

Depending of quantity purchased I’m told you can get black angus embryos for $25-$35 each. Compared to $3 semen it’s definitely a big step up but produces a calf worth more.

Average embryo success with a local firm is 55%. Higher for Angus and beef host, lower in dairy. So will cost another $15 per cow at least. Also I believe the cost over for implanting are a lot more than with you guys. I like he idea though.