Yara says food crisis coming

glasshouse

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The truth is out
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Powering the process itself isn't the problem if you have access to a lot of hydro. The problem is that you need large quantities of natural gas as feedstock, the price of which has absolutely rocketed.

I thought gas just powered the process. Nitrogen & Hydrogen are in the air just need the power from the gas or hydro, Harber Shruber process????

Please someone correct me. If hydro will do it, how about solar in the middle East or North Africa????https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z9tvw6f/revision/1

Edit I'm wrong

How about solar/hydro & AD plant. Maybe some heat capture, one for James Dyson perhaps.
 

snipe

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I thought gas just powered the process. Nitrogen & Hydrogen are in the air just need the power from the gas or hydro, Harber Shruber process????

Please someone correct me. If hydro will do it, how about solar in the middle East or North Africa????https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z9tvw6f/revision/1

Edit I'm wrong

How about solar/hydro & AD plant. Maybe some heat capture, one for James Dyson perhaps.
the process starts by mixing nitrogen from the air with hydrogen from natural gas
 
The perfect storm. Unaffordable input prices, shortage of labour, low prices for produce, farm support removed unless of course you want to produce very little. Oh, and let's not forget the increase in compliance that we all enjoy so much. Triple digit food inflation.
The end of an abundance of variety of cheap foods for the wealthy masses is looming ( And has been mooted for the past 40 years )
This time it might actually be here 🤔🙄
 
The perfect storm. Unaffordable input prices, shortage of labour, low prices for produce, farm support removed unless of course you want to produce very little. Oh, and let's not forget the increase in compliance that we all enjoy so much. Triple digit food inflation.
One of our agents was saying something similar to this for years. He mentioned three things which would all come together and all were contradicting each other. Environmental constraints, food shortage and government policies.
Just what you said
 

ski

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The perfect storm. Unaffordable input prices, shortage of labour, low prices for produce, farm support removed unless of course you want to produce very little. Oh, and let's not forget the increase in compliance that we all enjoy so much. Triple digit food inflation.
and you forgot perhaps the most important flavouring to the mix..............
Incompetence at every level of government.
 

Wolds Beef

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And now the Guardian prints a story regarding ammonia. Maybe some one better than me can lift it on to here!! It is attacking our use of muck.!!
WB
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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