correct when we went to 44t
Yara want to move to 750 kg bags
- Thread starter Rob Holmes
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i cant see it taking off as Swansea and Avonmouth have not long put in bagging plants geared to the present size, there will be less flat bed artics around as no one wants to sheet these or they have been banned from sites due to heath and safety concerns. Other issues will be if taller bags the taller curtainsiders are a problem getting to farms that are out of the english prairie belt and up in the hills low trees poor access and low bridges all being concerns plus the drivers of today don't want the shitty work it don't pay that well either.
that wouldnt last long at @FraserbMaybe Yara could install a solid bulk fert tower on farmsdeliver product early to suit them, no packaging hassle and it doesn’t cost the farmer in storage either.
Blow the granules straight into the tower from the lorry, then when it comes to spreading just drive tractor underneath and the automatic chute opens it into spreader by gravity without leaving the seat.
Something like the arable version of this:
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Tubbylew
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- Location
- Herefordshire
Feckin typical, i've finally got a spreader that will hold a 600kg bag to avoid cutting the bag and using a rake, and now it's too small, I thought I was getting somewhere.
Boohoo
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- Location
- Newtownabbey
Getting back to weight on a lorry..
Are 500kg bags in GB not as tall as these?
That's 32 ton of 500kg and 50 kg bags with room to spare. These are pretty much still the standard here in Northern Ireland.
Are 500kg bags in GB not as tall as these?
That's 32 ton of 500kg and 50 kg bags with room to spare. These are pretty much still the standard here in Northern Ireland.
be illegal here 28.8-29t is all we can get on
Boohoo
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- Location
- Newtownabbey
I know it's illegal, but they have less than 10 miles to go to get out of the UK. I was just making the point that over here you can get the weight on with 500kg bags.
by running illegally ??????
Boohoo
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- Location
- Newtownabbey
I'm not saying it's right and I've never had 32 ton on.
It's been said that the change from 500 to 600kg bags was because you couldn't get enough weight on with 500s and putting a few on the top to get the weight up has been mentioned. I was just showing that the 500s that we use fit 4 wide and you can get the weight on.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Those look taller.
Was it you who said you could get 4 wide across a lorry bed?
Bags here fit 3 across the bed be they 500’s or 600’s or 600’s of urea which are taller again
Boohoo
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- Location
- Newtownabbey
Yes, it was me who said about putting them 4 wide. We must have different shaped bags. A lot here is still done on pallets so they've made the 500s so they can get 4 of them on the same pallet as they use for 50kg bags. Our 600s will be the same as yours, 3 across.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Yet seed bags that fit 2 across the bed are much more stable to handle albeit are only 500kg.
michael N123
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Bucket it out the top
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
My spreader is an old wagtail, I do load it with a bucket out of the top.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
I did once have a single ton bag of maize starter fertiliser, that would have been a much squatter bag about 4 foot square.
They’d be much better for stability stacking but not sure how they’d be for transport, being squatter they’d need to be stacked to get the weight on a wagon.
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
This may be too logical for Yara. But why don't they keep the current 600kg bags, and offer the 750 as an option, and maybe even a 1000 or 1200kg bag as well. They'd soon see which was preferred.
We've had ton bags in the past, in my opinion so much better. But we have a big spreader and barely any granules any more.
We've had ton bags in the past, in my opinion so much better. But we have a big spreader and barely any granules any more.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Standard way to calibrate my simple machine - bucket in enough for a 2ac paddock and run it through at what I think is about right.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Not that I’m their biggest fan but what is the HSE attitude to stacking fertiliser?
There’s plenty been said on here in the past about their attitude to stacking bales, judging what most farmers would view as safe stacks as being unsafe in their opinion.
In my opinion fertiliser is much harder to stack safely, nitrogen in particular. Since the move to 600kg bags I have only stacked two high and the taller urea bags only one high
- Location
- northumberland
No problem, it's printed on the bags about stacking
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Perfect, that’s the pen pushers sorted.
I still think it’s safer to stack bales than fert , perhaps I need to get the contractor to label the bales.
