Yield difference between SB and WHEAT on your farm!!!(poll)

[Bossfarmer]

in light of recent input rises and lower spring cropping options im curious to know the difference people find in yield between SB and wheat on their farms and why?

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[Wombat]

For us not much difference but 2020 was quite dry for spring crops and 2021 had no rain for 7 weeks last spring so not really fair comparison years as spring drilled stuff doesn't like snotty stuff that goes wet to dry.

Edit assumin you mean spring wheat, if its winter wheat to spring barley then its about 2t/acre

 

[benny6910]

More than 1 ton for me as half my farm I couldn’t think about growing spring barley as it’s too heavy and wet. We can grow good wheat if the winter is kind with minimal flooding. We can hold moisture if it’s a dry spring/early summer with the heavy land but possibly never get a spring crop sown soon enough if we have a wet winter.

 

[Grass And Grain]

in light of recent input rises and lower spring cropping options im curious to know the difference people find in yield between SB and wheat on their farms and why?

Winter wheat or spring wheat?

 

[Flat 10]

I took it to be WW and sp bar..........

 

[Farmer Roy]

Is yield difference even relevant ?

surely the profitability per acre ( or however you want to define it ) of different crops is the most important thing & the best way to compare ?

dunno about you, but there is quite a difference here between the value of barley & wheat

2 tonne of mungbeans at $1200 is a lot more profitable than 6 tonne of grain sorghum at $250, for example . . .

 

[Phil P]

Is yield difference even relevant ?

surely the profitability per acre ( or however you want to define it ) of different crops is the most important thing & the best way to compare ?

dunno about you, but there is quite a difference here between the value of barley & wheat

2 tonne of mungbeans at $1200 is a lot more profitable than 6 tonne of grain sorghum at $250, for example . . .

Not much price difference between (feed) wheat and barley here at the moment, in fact barley could even be worth more in the right area!
You are right though, margin per acre would be more of a comparison between the two crops. Spring barley is a lot cheaper to grow and it the right season can yield very well but in a dry spring season can take money with it!

 

[Bossfarmer]

For us not much difference but 2020 was quite dry for spring crops and 2021 had no rain for 7 weeks last spring so not really fair comparison years as spring drilled stuff doesn't like snotty stuff that goes wet to dry.

Edit assumin you mean spring wheat, if its winter to spring barley then its about 2t/acre

sorry i meant ww

 

[Bossfarmer]

Winter wheat or spring wheat?

winter

 

[D14]

in light of recent input rises and lower spring cropping options im curious to know the difference people find in yield between SB and wheat on their farms and why?

Surely you should be asking about the difference between Spring barley and Spring wheat. We've gone 60% spring wheat this year.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Not much price difference between (feed) wheat and barley here at the moment, in fact barley could even be worth more in the right area!
You are right though, margin per acre would be more of a comparison between the two crops. Spring barley is a lot cheaper to grow and it the right season can yield very well but in a dry spring season can take money with it!

i was just interested in the yield variations around the country and reasons for it, im guessing soil type and rotation will be the main reasons for it? does anyone else find muck gives SB more of a boost than wheat?

 

[teslacoils]

While spring barley can be anything between 2t to 4t/AC, wheat is much more consistently likely to be high 3s to low 4s.

If my SB yields were more consistent I'd grow it more.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Surely you should be asking about the difference between Spring barley and Spring wheat. We've gone 60% spring wheat this year.

i was told it was a poorer gross margin that sb as theres not enough yield difference to compete with malting premium?

 

[Bossfarmer]

While spring barley can be anything between 2t to 4t/AC, wheat is much more consistently likely to be high 3s to low 4s.

If my SB yields were more consistent I'd grow it more.

interesting cant say i can recall our SB ever averaging 4t

 

[D14]

i was told it was a poorer gross margin that sb as theres not enough yield difference to compete with malting premium?

Never been able to achieve malting premium so spring wheat at 3t/acre (3.5t in a good weather year) and you can get milling on spring wheat easily.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Spring barley 1.5t to 3.3t
W wheat 2.8t to 4.3t (5t one year, but unusual).

Nice drop of rain in May/June and S Barley normally does towards 3t. Drought, 1.5t.

Average wheat probably 3.7t. Average S Barley probably 2.4t. Depends how many weird weather events we get.

 

[teslacoils]

interesting cant say i can recall our SB ever averaging 4t

I've averaged 4t with spring oats. And yet have also averaged 2.2t. The likelihood of late drilling, and the weather that follows has much more bearing on a spring cereal thsn a winter one.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Spring barley 1.5t to 3.3t
W wheat 2.8t to 4.3t (5t one year, but unusual).

Nice drop of rain in May/June and S Barley normally does towards 3t. Drought, 1.5t.

Average wheat probably 3.7t. Average S Barley probably 2.4t. Depends how many weird weather events we get.

interesting so over a tonne difference, a tonnes worth a lot now

 

[Grass And Grain]

interesting so over a tonne difference, a tonnes worth a lot now

So is Nitrogen, but the wheat will likely leave a bigger GM.

Decision here is more soil type based. Heavier land wheat, winter barley, break, repeat.

Light land won't grow either wheat or a conventional w barley. But the s. Barley will always germinate on the sand, then we pray for rain in May.

S. Barley riskier on heavy land?

 

[Bossfarmer]

So is Nitrogen, but the wheat will likely leave a bigger GM.

Decision here is more soil type based. Heavier land wheat, winter barley, break, repeat.

Light land won't grow either wheat or a conventional w barley. But the s. Barley will always germinate on the sand, then we pray for rain in May.

S. Barley riskier on heavy land?

my land isnt heavy so sb normally does ok, do people on heavier land get huge yields if they can get a decent germination?