YL SHARES

Cordiale

Member
There are lots of different patterns available for YL shares. I have used 42, 44, 57 and I think 61's. I always thought 57 were best. I have recently bought a plough with YL bodies on it. Just wondered what other people think, and what the best pattern would be for match work. Do people still attach them with a wooden peg, and where is the best place to buy them? Look forward to the replies guys.
 

Lurker

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Depends on personal preference and the ground conditions but 44's are best in my opinion and use hardwood dowels you can buy a length from a hardware store
 

Kenham

Member
This has always been of interest to me, lots of Ransomes literature has pictures of the different shares but I would love to see a page or two on Ransomes thoughts on the subject. Always carry a knife and some sticks in the toolbox.
 

Cordiale

Member
Does he do Fergie shares? All the repro ones seem to be made of cheese, have been making my own out of old KV moldboards, they seem to last reasonably well.
One way to find out Chris, give him a ring.
It's interesting what you say about the repro shares you have. I bought a set of TCN's with Westlake repro points and wings on, and was told they had done one ploughing match, so half an acre at most. But the square edges had all gone, looked like they had ploughed several acres, so I can see your cheese analogy.
 

Ley253

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Location
Bath
If you look under a genuine Ransome share, you will find a smooth flat area along the cutting edge. This is where the steel chill was positioned in the mould, this gave rapid cooling to the liquid metal in contact with it, and so left a hardened area. All the repro shares I have seen do not have this, and so are all soft. Those cast by Bridport Foundry, in SG iron seem to last reasonably well, and can be welded up when worn.
 

Howard150

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Location
Yorkshire
One way to find out Chris, give him a ring.
It's interesting what you say about the repro shares you have. I bought a set of TCN's with Westlake repro points and wings on, and was told they had done one ploughing match, so half an acre at most. But the square edges had all gone, looked like they had ploughed several acres, so I can see your cheese analogy.

In defence I would say that there is a set of westlake points on my 86 which will have done 8 or 10 matches. At Worksop in the Europeans I put a set of blue Ransomes original points on. At the end of day 2 they had lost most of the suck. I spent Saturday evening with a grinder rectifying them. At the end of day 3 they were worthless. It all depends on the ground you are plouhging.
I changed from TCN’s to RWM’s because the points needed less attention. My last venture into laying them was to use Kuhn reversible points cut in two. You need a cutting jig to mark them and a fabricating jig to plate them up. You are putting virgin material in there and can set the correct lead to land. Used to use the same material for RWM tips.
Arthur’s shares are generally good. For Ransomes he only has 44’s. 59’s are similar but more durable in stony ground having a solid box. A lot of people use 61’s for openings and finishing. Again like a YL but slimmer and lighter. In early production 44’s were £2:18:0 a dozen. When ah wer a lad they who should be spoken of in whispers used to bring me bundles of a dozen which were 10/- apiece in proper money!
 

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
Some land Nr Burbage in Wilts which will destroy a new pair of genuine 117`s in two plots! Good for cleaning a rusty plough though!
 
I use 44's predominantly, but I do like 57's. I tend to use 57's when its stony/hard (which I was told they were developed for) as they're more forgiving when in the ground. Sometimes I cut the wings down on 44's, sometimes I don't....I can never decide if it actually makes any difference despite the theories! ...deep down I think Ransome would have already chopped the corners off if they made a better job! I don't have any problem getting hold of both 44's and 57' although they're are more 44 repro's about, which work fine.
 

Lurker

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I use 44's predominantly, but I do like 57's. I tend to use 57's when its stony/hard (which I was told they were developed for) as they're more forgiving when in the ground. Sometimes I cut the wings down on 44's, sometimes I don't....I can never decide if it actually makes any difference despite the theories! ...deep down I think Ransome would have already chopped the corners off if they made a better job! I don't have any problem getting hold of both 44's and 57' although they're are more 44 repro's about, which work fine.

I think you're quite correct sometimes I think people are constantly trying to re-invent the wheel and I'm certain Ransome make would have tried all sorts of variations and shaped their shares in a particular way that worked best, but to be fair times have changed from when these where manufactured/designed and I guess will the much heavier tractors and implements and ground compaction. It may will be the case if Ransome where to design a replacement share etc for todays ploughing matches what would they come up with and before anybody mentions as manufactured and when no matter how modified from the original share if it fits straight on to the standard plough and carried the same part number that would be fine and dandy in my eyes.
 

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