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Ley253

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Location
Bath
You plough at National level and you don't use one!
You came placed several times at the nationals with non-genuine boards!
No fancy moveable headstock or anything fancy on your plough!
Just a simple plough!
You really can plough!
I wish all the top ploughmen were like you that would stop people playing about with original ploughs and making fancy shares.
How long have you been ploughing for?
Oh dear, another Luddite trying to convince us to use field ploughs in competition! First of all, all the mods done to a competition plough do very little to improve the ploughing, they do ,however take a lot of the effort out of the job, and speed up adjustments.
The fact is, like it or not, match ploughing is a COMPETITION, and like all competitions will result in highly tuned equipment, some tuning is almost essential, how, for example are you to keep a plot both to size, and uniform, if you cant take a single furrow, which on a standard plough you cant? No need in a field, uniformity doesn`t matter, and driving over the next land(plot) would not get you disqualified(Which in a COMPETITION, it could).
Why make a special share? Ransomes made a good selection.
Over the years, I have heard this discordant wail, "X" only wins because he has "Y" mods on his plough, emanating from the also rans who are convinced they are better than they are, or cant be bothered to do the same mods, or are of such a low standard said mods would be wasted!
Matches are COMPETITIONS, if you dont want to compete, and do all that is required to do so, rather than make up the numbers, please confine your outings to working events.
 
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Ley253

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Location
Bath
you won’t have an axe left if you carry on........ think Pete was just being nice, shame to put him down. Makes a nice change to have some positive comments on here.
Your right Timo, but he touched a nerve. Things were bad a few years ago, when the also rans tried, and succeeded in getting some perfectly standard ploughs banned in their local match, as the deemed them match ploughs, they were in one case trailer ploughs, and in another RND bodied trailer ploughs. Not good to travel one hundred miles or so, to be told you cant use that,when you had described it in detail both on the phone and on the entry form!
Down here there are still vestiges of this feeling, one match has a "Match and Modified" class. I took the sec around the plots and proved that there was not one standard plough on the site!
To my mind, taking part in match ploughing, should be embarking on a pathway to perfection, the demand for standard ploughs, one make classes etc etc, are enticing people onto a meander to mediocrity, and should be avoided.
 

Howard150

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Location
Yorkshire
you won’t have an axe left if you carry on........ think Pete was just being nice, shame to put him down. Makes a nice change to have some positive comments on here.

Just a small point Harry but calling Pete out as a Luddite is deserving of an apology - especially after his recent thread of October last - “Making another plough”

Think Pete is made of sterner stuff than that Tim, also endowed with a pair of fairly broad shoulders.
If people want to use standard unabused tackle then so be it but let societies provide a class for them. By the same token let neither side take the holier than thou attitude and try to impose their view as being the only correct one.

Regardless of all this then, it is a fairly universally held view that very few, if any, unmodified ploughs have ever won lots of honours, possibly with the exception of a TS86 which was made for the job anyway.
 
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Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
Just a small point Harry but calling Pete out as a Luddite is deserving of an apology - especially after his recent thread of October last - “Making another plough”

Think Pete is made of sterner stuff than that Tim, also endowed with a pair of fairly broad shoulders.
If people want to use standard unabused tackle then so be it but let societies provide a class for them. By the same token let neither side take the holier than thou attitude and try to impose their view as being the only correct one.

Regardless of all this then, it is a fairly universally held view that very few, if any, unmodified ploughs have ever won lots of honours, possibly with the exception of a TS86 which was made for the job anyway.
You are quite correct David.
 

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
You plough at National level and you don't use one!
You came placed several times at the nationals with non-genuine boards!
No fancy moveable headstock or anything fancy on your plough!
Just a simple plough!
You really can plough!
I wish all the top ploughmen were like you that would stop people playing about with original ploughs and making fancy shares.
How long have you been ploughing for?
I apologise for my earlier comments, which were much too harsh, and in some respects unwarranted.There are not that many on here who can remember the battle we had to get vintage ploughs accepted in mainstream matches, and one of the weapons used against us was the view that our ploughs were special. When I read your post, I could see all this angst surfacing again, and reacted accordingly.
 
Your right Timo, but he touched a nerve. Things were bad a few years ago, when the also rans tried, and succeeded in getting some perfectly standard ploughs banned in their local match, as the deemed them match ploughs, they were in one case trailer ploughs, and in another RND bodied trailer ploughs. Not good to travel one hundred miles or so, to be told you cant use that,when you had described it in detail both on the phone and on the entry form!
Down here there are still vestiges of this feeling, one match has a "Match and Modified" class. I took the sec around the plots and proved that there was not one standard plough on the site!
To my mind, taking part in match ploughing, should be embarking on a pathway to perfection, the demand for standard ploughs, one make classes etc etc, are enticing people onto a meander to mediocrity, and should be avoided.
You are quite correct David.
I apologise for my earlier comments, which were much too harsh, and in some respects unwarranted.There are not that many on here who can remember the battle we had to get vintage ploughs accepted in mainstream matches, and one of the weapons used against us was the view that our ploughs were special. When I read your post, I could see all this angst surfacing again, and reacted accordingly.

Thank you for your apology we all get the wrong end of the stick sometimes. :):):)
 
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bassetts

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I have a Ransomes Robin with genuine yl183 all clean up and painted and all parts in very good condition
What's it worth just sitting in garden under cover
 

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