Yorkshire fog

[scrubbuster]

I have a reseed that that was direct drilled into stubble last September. It wasn't looking great for a while but it's come away now but it has big areas of YF. What is the best course of action now. I plan to top it, should probably have been done before now. I did wonder about a weed wiper as the sown grasses are well grazed but that may be a silly idea!
TIA

 

[tr250]

You need 3 times more of them woolly things

 

[scrubbuster]

You need 3 times more of them woolly things

Would it graze out then?? The sown grasses are grazed pretty bare but they don't touch tge YF

 

[scrubbuster]

You need 3 times more of them woolly things

Would it graze out then?? The sown grasses are grazed pretty bare but they don't touch tge YF

 

[tr250]

Not now it’s gone to seed probably but needed hammering in spring. Cattle might

 

[beardface]

Have a couple of fields like this. They eat it when it's young, but tend to leave it when it's headed like most grass. Rotational grazing is the best way I've found to utilise/reduce it.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Is YF a sign of low lime levels?

 

[scrubbuster]

Is YF a sign of low lime levels?

The ph is low and its had calcifert and 2 tonne of of lime going on as soon as it appears

 

[michael N123]

Graze it down hard to nothing with lots of sheep or cows then move them off for abit

 

[Agrivator]

Cut it and bale it. Then graze the aftermath as hard as possible.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Is YF a sign of low lime levels?

It tolerates low pH, more a sign of low grazing pressure, which lets it away ahead of anything tasty.

It accumulates aluminium, which gives the impression that "lime sees it off" - really the carbonate gives the H+ and Al³+ something to cling to, so it doesn't taste as fugly (same as creeping bent etc)

The cheapest way to reduce the chances of it overtaking more desirable grasses is to use enough pressure that the stock will deck the area given in a couple of days - as opposed to parking them in the whole field until they moan to get out - because in that situation they'll overgraze most things and still undergraze the YF, which puts it ahead every grazing and creates a compounding situation

Nonselective grazing has pretty much eradicated it from our ranch in the space of a couple of years.

 

[milkloss]

Good info @Kiwi Pete , thanks for that.

I’d say feed it well and graze it to the deck regularly. Hopefully the productive grasses will see the YF off

 

[som farmer]

and yet as hay they eat it, or perhaps they haven't a choice ! Used to be prolific here, haven't really worried about it recently, shall keep my eyes open, to show junior.
Just goes to show what grazing management can do, maggots cleared out the ragwort here as well, all we need now, are nettle, dock and thistle devourers.

 

[xmilkr]

When l first started work on the farm l now own, all the grassland was chocked with Yorkshire fog, being a young lad with little experience l soon realised which grass was producing the milk, so when the boss told me to put 2 bags of 20 10 10 compound and 1 bag of nitram as it was then per acre, on one of the grazing paddocks l carried this out, l had read in the FW that ici were pushing this nitram as a boost to grass production so unknown to the boss l put 1 bag 20 10 10 and 2 bags of nitram to the acre, the result was amazing but as l had made such a good job he set me to do the other paddocks, l had to tell him he needed more nitram and told him what l had done, l got a clip over the ear but this farm never grew YF again , my advice would be increase your N then more productive grasses will take over.

 

[som farmer]

When l first started work on the farm l now own, all the grassland was chocked with Yorkshire fog, being a young lad with little experience l soon realised which grass was producing the milk, so when the boss told me to put 2 bags of 20 10 10 compound and 1 bag of nitram as it was then per acre, on one of the grazing paddocks l carried this out, l had read in the FW that ici were pushing this nitram as a boost to grass production so unknown to the boss l put 1 bag 20 10 10 and 2 bags of nitram to the acre, the result was amazing but as l had made such a good job he set me to do the other paddocks, l had to tell him he needed more nitram and told him what l had done, l got a clip over the ear but this farm never grew YF again , my advice would be increase your N then more productive grasses will take over.

l think we all learning you can substantially alter swards by grazing/cutting methods. To be fair, most of us knew that, just got waylaid by seed reps.