"You can't trust this government or it's advisors"

[oil barron]

How vaccines are made has changed wholesale since they gave folk a "live" dose of whatever they were vaccinating against. Effectively all you need to do now is tweak the viral DNA so the body recognises it.

The purpose of lockdown, mitigation etc was to stop there being hundreds of thousands of sick folk. People often say "Ah yes 99.80% don`t get ill"........... imagine if 0.5% of the population of the UK needed hospital treatment.
That is 330,000 people trying to get into 141,000 beds.

Way back at the start they were predicting 250k+ dead............. hasn`t happened.

Imagine if they had said this will take a 12-18months to sort out...... non-compliance would abound and more get sick.

Vaccine passport to go on holiday, seems fair enough no different to Yellow fever status etc for some countries..... vaccine status to go to the pub, that`s a no from me and probably where we will end up.

The issue is that it is a whole new technique and is untested over a long period of time. I’m 99% sure it will be fine. So if you are over 70 or have underlying health conditions that put you at high risk then on the risk reward ratio it is definitely worth it. For kids or women who want to get pregnant it seems a little more out of kilter on the risk reward ratio, and we are all being carried along on the wave of vaccine will end it all and we can get back to normal.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

At the moment I’m 100% against children needing/having it, no doubt there will be a new variant nearer the time?!

 

[bobk]

At the moment I’m 100% against children needing/having it, no doubt there will be a new variant nearer the time?!

I argree , if every country was at our level of vaccination the young un's can sort the herd immunity

 

[Charlie Gill]

At the moment I’m 100% against children needing/having it, no doubt there will be a new variant nearer the time?!

Didn't they say at the beginning that they needed 70-80% vaccinated to give the virus nowhere to go. Surely we shouldn't need to do kids? How many kids are there?

To be fair, if the numbers stayed as they are, would anyone object to us going back to normal on June 21st?

 

[essex man]

If the vulnerable are vaccinated why do you need to vax anyone else.
They are not seeking eradication

 

[essex man]

Didn't they say at the beginning that they needed 70-80% vaccinated to give the virus nowhere to go. Surely we shouldn't need to do kids? How many kids are there?

To be fair, if the numbers stayed as they are, would anyone object to us going back to normal on June 21st?

We will not be

 

[Charlie Gill]

We will not be

I thought you already were?

 

[Mr Mackay]

Didn't they say at the beginning that they needed 70-80% vaccinated to give the virus nowhere to go. Surely we shouldn't need to do kids? How many kids are there?

To be fair, if the numbers stayed as they are, would anyone object to us going back to normal on June 21st?

Will there be a normal again ,I ask myself . At least we will need to rethink our interaction with other people in future (if this virus keeps yo yoing )

 

[bobk]

Will there be a normal again ,I ask myself . At least we will need to rethink our interaction with other peoople in future (if this virus keeps yo yoing )

If the Europeans can get their arses in to gear and vaccinate to a standard, things will improve quickly . otherwise we're fooked

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Didn't they say at the beginning that they needed 70-80% vaccinated to give the virus nowhere to go. Surely we shouldn't need to do kids? How many kids are there?

To be fair, if the numbers stayed as they are, would anyone object to us going back to normal on June 21st?

Absolutely no way masks, testing and vaccinating will be gone after 21st June.

 

[bobk]

Absolutely no way masks, testing and vaccinating will be gone after 21st June.

Tell us what you're missing presently ?

 

[essex man]

I thought you already were?

I never stopped

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Will there be a normal again ,I ask myself . At least we will need to rethink our interaction with other people in future (if this virus keeps yo yoing )

Very easy to be sitting at home and being against social distancing and being defiant. Will anyone be comfortable being in a packed bar standing shoulder to shoulder with strangers ever again?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Tell us what you're missing presently ?

How do you mean?

 

[Charlie Gill]

Will there be a normal again ,I ask myself . At least we will need to rethink our interaction with other peoople in future (if this virus keeps yo yoing )

Yeah, of course, we are nearly there.

 

[essex man]

Very easy to be sitting at home and being against social distancing and being defiant. Will anyone be comfortable being in a packed bar standing shoulder to shoulder with strangers ever again?

I am, have been, will continue to be very comfortable socialising indoors with people.
Why wouldn't you be?

 

[bobk]

How do you mean?

RE restrictions due to lockdown

 

[Sonoftheheir]

RE restrictions due to lockdown

What I’m saying is the UK Gov will not let us get back to the old normal.

 

[bobk]

What I’m saying is the UK Gov will not let us get back to the old normal.

They can't though can they .?

 

[essex man]

They can't though can they .?

Clearly they can, but would not be popular.
People are needlessly scared and enjoy fighting a never ending fake war