Dead Rabbits
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@Bald Rick I was wondering if you were making any accommodations for the different heights of milkers in your build? It's quite painful and wearing when the platform is too low.
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Headless chicken
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But why?
@Headless chicken - No idea really - maybe less labour than a rotary, you would not have alarms going off in the middle of the night as you would be milking at fixed times of the day when someone is on site, you can multi task (move fence, feed calves, feed, scrape out, drink tea, watch tv) whilst milking is going on, get benefits of an automated rotary without some of the cost and moving parts, predicated by second hand robots popping up everywhere.
Platform deck is 900mm off the floor which, hopefully, will accommodate most people at a comfortable working height.
Lankies & short arses can fetch cows
We expect more automation to come on to rotaries in the next few years such as fast & accurate pre treating arms which will make the whole system a one man at cups on only plus one fetching. Full automation will possibly be too slow as nothing beats the human hand/eye co-ordination and rotaries need high cow numbers ideally.
As I have said all along, robots are great up to around 200-250 cows and 4 machines.
s line
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Has anybody replaced Lely a3 robots and put in Lely A4s in?As i understand A3 and A4 robots can,t talk each other?
Not convinced by this for an idea. If you do prespray your going to have to wait 3 or so spaces for product to work. Then a space to wipe then maybe 3 spaces to dip unit, then another to put on. That's 8 spaces used to get a unit on and you want an 8 minute rotation.
Dents at Kirby thore near Penrith do this through a hoof count auto footbath that Anthony marsh adopted for them to do the job. May be worth speaking to them to see how they have got on with it.
Y Fan Wen
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Is your building site all white this morning?
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Think A4 and A3s can both talk to the same pc/t4c/crs but you would need to be on separate groups of cows as teat co ordinates and cow location in box are different (a3 weigh floor a4 camera etc)
If anybody thinking of selling an a3 next send me a message could do with another if could find one at reasonable price
holywell farmer
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Assume there hired in ?
Yes but all gone now. Just as well it is the weekend. All a bit like building a house as it goes in fits & starts. Fingers crossed that we are still on track for an end July start up.
No they all belong to the builder who has a range of 360 from 3t to 24t. They come & go all the time so never quite sure what will turn up but it all seems to work out OK
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I must admit I had thought about a multi robot set up like that with loads of Lely A2's, thinking back to the 6 abreast parlour I used to milk in as a youth, 6 robots together would have a similar output for about 50k or less.
Dead Rabbits
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I was thinking of an adjustable platform to stand on. Here I think I can cut the drain cover down and remount it two inches lower. The vertically challenged could add mats to stand on.
ollie989898
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No reason 2 arms cant attach and detach all the units on a rotary. Robots swap tools and lift and stack parts in factories all over the world.
Lely will develop it eventually and call it the lely octopus. They can send me a cheque anytime they like.
Lely will develop it eventually and call it the lely octopus. They can send me a cheque anytime they like.
Speed.
At the moment, even if everything is working fine and the lazer/camera picks up the cow straight away and the teats are lined 4 square with the back ones slightly lower than the front, it will still take the machine 1'20" to attach including prep.
However as mentioned, I think an autonomous fast(er) pre-prep arm will be the way to go with a human at Cups On and likely to be commercially viable within 5 years
A relief for some farmers who have installed rotaries only to see long served members of staff leave as they do not like the loss of contact with cows and the factory type conditions;as told to me this am by my foot trimmer.
ollie989898
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A relief for some farmers who have installed rotaries only to see long served members of staff leave as they do not like the loss of contact with cows and the factory type conditions;as told to me this am by my foot trimmer.
Ah yes the individual customer service bestowed on each cow twice daily. A scant 20 seconds each as they swing by...