Young farmer killed in bale-wrapping machine

[quattro]

How many people operating post knockers standing next to pipes, why are the pipes not sleeved if its as dangerous as some on here are saying. not like hse to miss a trick like this.

Masted forklifts with no cab

 

[Neil MP]

How many people operating post knockers standing next to pipes, why are the pipes not sleeved if its as dangerous as some on here are saying. not like hse to miss a trick like this.

It is as dangerous as people are saying, and you do get a webbed sheath that goes over hoses, it prevents oil jetting

 

[Pistonbroke]

 

[shumungus]

what do you mean unprotected hydraulic hoses? i regularly used to put oil pipes in and out when i was a kid i was none the wiser?

A second layer of sheathing or flexible pipe to deflect the jet of a burst.

 

[shumungus]

How many people operating post knockers standing next to pipes, why are the pipes not sleeved if its as dangerous as some on here are saying. not like hse to miss a trick like this.

In the operator area they put a webbed sheath over the pipes to tidy them up and deflect oil.

 

[An Gof]

And to think plenty of us buckraked with a 135 and twose buckrake with the push off lever right beside us with 3 different hydraulic hoses all plumbed in not six inches away. Now I think about it the forage wagon was the same for moving the floor or lifting the reel. 🫣

I was that soldier on the buckrake but using a Ford 4000

 

[ollie989898]

I have a son ,13, farming mad. What do I say;
No you can't top that field in case a hose bursts and sprays you with hot oil.
No you can't bring cows in for milking in case the quad rolls over.
No you can't take barrel of water on the link box in case tractor rolls away.
Etc. Etc.
Love him so much and hate anything to happen but he has to learn.

You alone have to judge how alert the boy is and whether he recognises the hazards. As others have said there are professionally run courses for young people that highlight the dangers. That said, I would not necessarily know the hazards involved with kit or land I was unfamiliar with.

Mind, farmers also have a part to play, they know their land better than no man, and should be the first to stop contractors working on it when it is wet and sloping etc.

 

[Bossfarmer]

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Would need a few painkillers for that, what if it gets u in the face?

 

[Neil MP]

Would need a few painkillers for that, what if it gets u in the face?

It will hurt

 

[Pistonbroke]

Would need a few painkillers for that, what if it gets u in the face?

HSE showed photos of a blokes arm after it happening. Ten times worse than that hand,ended up losing it.

 

[Bossfarmer]

HSE showed photos of a blokes arm after it happening. Ten times worse than that hand,ended up losing it.

Every pipe should have a protective covering if its as lethal as this?

 

[Sebastian77]

Safety net,
under a Scissor lift or man cage,
Why, ?

I'm IPAF trained so just to say.

You would never use a safety net under a Scissor lift (physically impossible), and wouldn't use one under a cherry-picker style lifter either. In terms of the law, a Scissor lift does not require any fall restraints. Cherry-pickers or man-cage require a fixed lanyard (short enough to prevent actually leaving the cage) or a fall arrest lanyard, in that order of preference.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Every body can read what you print , but why keep mentioning it

Yet on another thread apparently he's trying to sell a gas regulator that's over 20 yrs out of date allegedly.
Nowt so strange as folk.

 

[thorpe]

youngest son is a plant mechanic his first 3 weeks at CITB was health and safty. im sure when he is my age his health will be better than mine, ive learnt a lot from him!

 

[oil barron]

Every pipe should have a protective covering if its as lethal as this?

We were given training about it offshore. The danger is really high pressure stuff if you have a pin hole leak. I’ve never seen it happen on farm stuff, but could be possible on some of the newer higher pressure stuff.
I think the most common occurence if with firemen operating the jaws of life.

 

[quattro]

I know someone have tipping pipe blow on a artic and put his hand up to protect his face and just about went through his hand and left it badly damaged afterwards

 

[Massey Ferguson 6480]

My son is 17 and desperate to drive kit but our place is all steep and it frightens me to death to let him loose in case it all goes wrong. Trouble is I can't remember how I learned myself. Old boy who worked here used to take me with him when I was 9, letting me drive on the road with his flat cap on

Shud have had him at it before now imo, now hes at that age he thinks he knows best and will be all guns blazing when you finally let him loose.

 

[DeeGee]

This hydraulic hose blowing is honestly news to me.
Something that I was never taught about, nor have ever catered for.

Maybe a generation thing (aged 66) maybe my ignorance, but how does this sit with operating something like a JCB Loadall or similar? Likewise are bale wrappers a potentially lethal implement?

Any advice welcome!

 

[Pistonbroke]

Shud have had him at it before now imo, now hes at that age he thinks he knows best and will be all guns blazing when you finally let him loose.

He's done some stuff for five years,just not fully independent. When we were doing some harvesting,he was doing A level exams.

 

[Muddyroads]

This hydraulic hose blowing is honestly news to me.
Something that I was never taught about, nor have ever catered for.

Maybe a generation thing (aged 66) maybe my ignorance, but how does this sit with operating something like a JCB Loadall or similar? Likewise are bale wrappers a potentially lethal implement?

Any advice welcome!

Any implement has the potential to be lethal.

My parents didn’t farm and I first set foot on a farm aged 10 in 1976. That day I drove 3 tractors and was instantly hooked. There is never a day goes by when I’m not reminded of or grateful to Les Goodwin who took the time, trouble and interest to train me and give me opportunities to learn. I remember being ticked off for driving the 414 back to the farm too quickly with the loader up, but that is the only time I can remember being told off.
In many ways it was easier to learn then. Kit was smaller and slower, there were fewer distractions and he had the time to invest in me. Holding youngsters back for too long will either lead to them losing interest or going wild, but a lot depends on the individual.