Young farmer starting out

Bob12

Member
Mixed Farmer
Good morning chaps. I’m looking for some advice on starting up on my own. It’s alway been a dream to farm sheep in my own right. I have 30 ewes currently however I feel as this is the right time in my life and my young family’s life to expand. Currently I am full time employee have a very supportive wife who helps in any way she can. I can have a supply of plenty acres of fodder for sheep through the estate that I work and they are very supportive. The problem I have like many other young farmers is cash to expand ewe numbers at any pace. So I’m looking for advice. What would people do? Eg approach the local mart to try and get loans through them, approach a bank? Or is the most sensible way to just keep ewe lambs of my current 30 ewes and work away slow and steady and build up gradually? Interested to hear options. Thanks
 

Jrp221

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Good morning chaps. I’m looking for some advice on starting up on my own. It’s alway been a dream to farm sheep in my own right. I have 30 ewes currently however I feel as this is the right time in my life and my young family’s life to expand. Currently I am full time employee have a very supportive wife who helps in any way she can. I can have a supply of plenty acres of fodder for sheep through the estate that I work and they are very supportive. The problem I have like many other young farmers is cash to expand ewe numbers at any pace. So I’m looking for advice. What would people do? Eg approach the local mart to try and get loans through them, approach a bank? Or is the most sensible way to just keep ewe lambs of my current 30 ewes and work away slow and steady and build up gradually? Interested to hear options. Thanks
Personally I would build up slowly, the future is pretty uncertain and I wouldn't want to be taking out too many loans etc. Maybe buy in if you have some spare cash?
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Good morning chaps. I’m looking for some advice on starting up on my own. It’s alway been a dream to farm sheep in my own right. I have 30 ewes currently however I feel as this is the right time in my life and my young family’s life to expand. Currently I am full time employee have a very supportive wife who helps in any way she can. I can have a supply of plenty acres of fodder for sheep through the estate that I work and they are very supportive. The problem I have like many other young farmers is cash to expand ewe numbers at any pace. So I’m looking for advice. What would people do? Eg approach the local mart to try and get loans through them, approach a bank? Or is the most sensible way to just keep ewe lambs of my current 30 ewes and work away slow and steady and build up gradually? Interested to hear options. Thanks

Contract with an established farmer. Take his ewe lambs at weaning. Tup them winter them well. Lamb them, wean them and return them. You keep the progeny plus get paid for hitting spec weight on return of 2 tooths. I know several such farmers looking. PM me to discuss.

Go for it, a golden opportunity. @unlacedgecko will give you some advice I think.

Thanks for the tag.
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Good morning chaps. I’m looking for some advice on starting up on my own. It’s alway been a dream to farm sheep in my own right. I have 30 ewes currently however I feel as this is the right time in my life and my young family’s life to expand. Currently I am full time employee have a very supportive wife who helps in any way she can. I can have a supply of plenty acres of fodder for sheep through the estate that I work and they are very supportive. The problem I have like many other young farmers is cash to expand ewe numbers at any pace. So I’m looking for advice. What would people do? Eg approach the local mart to try and get loans through them, approach a bank? Or is the most sensible way to just keep ewe lambs of my current 30 ewes and work away slow and steady and build up gradually? Interested to hear options. Thanks
Would the estate be interested in forming a share farming agreement as there could be advantages for both them & you.
 

Bob12

Member
Mixed Farmer
Contract with an established farmer. Take his ewe lambs at weaning. Tup them winter them well. Lamb them, wean them and return them. You keep the progeny plus get paid for hitting spec weight on return of 2 tooths. I know several such farmers looking. PM me to discuss.



Thanks for the tag.
Very interesting suggestion. I’ll pm you to talk more. Thanks
 

Bob12

Member
Mixed Farmer
Would the estate be interested in forming a share farming agreement as there could be advantages for both them & you.
Possibly. I don’t know much about share farming. My fear from what Iv heard from a few people is you end up just being a cheap shepherd. I would be interested in hearing from someone that does do it successfully and how they manage to make it work and the ins and outs.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Very interesting suggestion. I’ll pm you to talk more. Thanks
Location location location.
It's a sound proposition in the right environs, but if the estate is all heather and blackies, that ain't an option.

Aside from all the schemes and clever whizzes that'll be put forrard.......
....the trad route would be arrange sensible grass keep in advance, get finance from a professional lending institution...or 'bank' as they're known, then go and and buy a bunch of draft ewes off the hill breed of your choice.
(avoid 'on-trend' breeds would be my advice)

Short term turnover plan would be to lamb them to a meat sire once or twice, then cull them to recoup layout.
Or you could tup them to a BFL etc, and keep some ewe lambs to expand your flock as the old crocks fall by the wayside.

Look those you're dealing with straight in the eye, play a straight bat, and be prompt sorting welfare issues.

Good luck.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
As @egbert says, draft hill ewes can be much better value. RD Livestock will sell large numbers of Welsh drafts/cull annually. Not sure on this year's prices, but approx £50 won't be far off.
The only problem with that is that you then have wild old welsh sheep!
They'll live on nothing, but take delight in looking for it all over the blessed parish. (nothing like them for rearing tonnage of lamb though)
 

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