YouTube Movie šŸæ I thought was excellent.

orchard

Member
I stumbled upon this movie;
Planet of the humans


Itā€™s American and dispels the myth of green renewable energy.
It struck a chord with me.

its 1.5 hours long. Try watching it on a smart TV over the weekend once it starts to rain.
Yeah, the main thing that struck me was how embedded and enmeshed the technological 'solutions' are with fossil fuels and consumption.
 

orchard

Member
This is true - you cannot have one without the other so the moral is we all need to use less ,and we need less people ?? :unsure:
I must finish the last half hour later :)
And less greed, for sure. It does make current efforts look like a stalling strategy to eke out another generation of status quo, leaving others to deal with, again...
 
I've been trawling a bit , looking to DL episodes of "the Boardwalk Empire" with no success at all . I've been reminded times without number that I have unused benefits from Amazon "prime" , but I can find all kinds of DL s , on Amazon --except the one I want . I'm being a bit of a tightarse really - I know I could subscribe to whoever holds the copyright , but I already subscribe to too many ! The cheapest I can find is on e bay - a second hand boxed set for about Ā£35.00 ish or new , full series for about Ā£80 ish . I'm absolutely sure that someone on here will have done similar , so-o-o Any ideas folks ?
 

DaveGrohl

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
I've been trawling a bit , looking to DL episodes of "the Boardwalk Empire" with no success at all . I've been reminded times without number that I have unused benefits from Amazon "prime" , but I can find all kinds of DL s , on Amazon --except the one I want . I'm being a bit of a tightarse really - I know I could subscribe to whoever holds the copyright , but I already subscribe to too many ! The cheapest I can find is on e bay - a second hand boxed set for about Ā£35.00 ish or new , full series for about Ā£80 ish . I'm absolutely sure that someone on here will have done similar , so-o-o Any ideas folks ?
I give in, what's DL?
 

orchard

Member
I see after some googling that the climate nazis don't like it much.
I looked for a critique too, but some chap at the start was going well ott at the use of older footage at the festival, saying that it was highly misleading as technology has increased efficiency a bit since then. That was enough for me.

I watched a lecture recently on vertical horticulture by a researcher who'd worked with NASA on the same. He reckoned that the solar array needed to illuminated crops ratio was somewhere like 5:1 - 5 acres of solar to one acre crop equivalent sunlight. Improving the efficiency of one element(solar/coversion/storage/lights) may improve things a bit, but it's obvious, when one factors everything else into the equation, like production, growing medium and lifetime, that we already have the best solution.
 

beardface

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Location
East Yorkshire
I looked for a critique too, but some chap at the start was going well ott at the use of older footage at the festival, saying that it was highly misleading as technology has increased efficiency a bit since then. That was enough for me.

I watched a lecture recently on vertical horticulture by a researcher who'd worked with NASA on the same. He reckoned that the solar array needed to illuminated crops ratio was somewhere like 5:1 - 5 acres of solar to one acre crop equivalent sunlight. Improving the efficiency of one element(solar/coversion/storage/lights) may improve things a bit, but it's obvious, when one factors everything else into the equation, like production, growing medium and lifetime, that we already have the best solution.

My wife has a Taiwanese stepmother. I was chatting to her friend when we were over there last time about vertical farming. He said most Asians wouldn't eat it as they classed it as inferior produce because it wasn't grown in soil with natural light.
 
I looked for a critique too, but some chap at the start was going well ott at the use of older footage at the festival, saying that it was highly misleading as technology has increased efficiency a bit since then. That was enough for me.

I watched a lecture recently on vertical horticulture by a researcher who'd worked with NASA on the same. He reckoned that the solar array needed to illuminated crops ratio was somewhere like 5:1 - 5 acres of solar to one acre crop equivalent sunlight. Improving the efficiency of one element(solar/coversion/storage/lights) may improve things a bit, but it's obvious, when one factors everything else into the equation, like production, growing medium and lifetime, that we already have the best solution.
I saw the debunking video last night.
So immediately you start to question the original somewhat!
But the thrust of the original is spot on in its conclusions.
We will get to a crunch point very soon I fear
 

jackrussell101

Member
Mixed Farmer
How warm are we now above pre industrial levels, 1.5c?

I'm lead to believe that when the dinosaurs were around, which was a climate inhospitable for humans, the climate was only 4c warmer than pre industrial levels.

One statistic that really stands out to me is that China has used more cement in the first 15 years of this century than the US did in the entire 20th century.
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
How warm are we now above pre industrial levels, 1.5c?

I'm lead to believe that when the dinosaurs were around, which was a climate inhospitable for humans, the climate was only 4c warmer than pre industrial levels.

One statistic that really stands out to me is that China has used more cement in the first 15 years of this century than the US did in the entire 20th century.
Iirc in 2000 only 1 of the 10 biggest bridges in the world w was in China. Now it's most of them. https://in.finance.yahoo.com/news/1...-majority-of-them-are-in-china-102338789.html
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: ā€œRed Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in Aprilā€œ

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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