itsintheblood
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- south west in over the knap
I was talking to a rep today and he was talking about this saying that it could be iodine deficiency which causes the thyroid to shut down ??
Zoom forage brassica
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Northumberland
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Found 4 dead ewe lambs this morning vet postmortem says its a strain of pasturella.
At least it's not the kale. Bloody annoying the ovivac or heptavac didn't prevent it
At least it's not the kale. Bloody annoying the ovivac or heptavac didn't prevent it
sherg
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- shropshire
Its a pain in the arse and its so annoying when you think you've done your upmost to prevent everything
Northumberland
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Character building.
Asking the vet how can I cure it how can I prevent it from happening next year.
Answer not a lot. Oxytret or sell ASAPASAP
Asking the vet how can I cure it how can I prevent it from happening next year.
Answer not a lot. Oxytret or sell ASAPASAP
Stopped using heptavac p years ago after losing a few ewes one year just use straight heptavac or covexin now. Vet at the time said the p in the vaccine dosent cover all the strains of pasturella so it can be hit and miss
Just use brovoxin here, get them there 2 jabs whilst they are in there store stage, then by the time they hit the kale they should (touch wood ) be safe an immune from black leg. Saying that it's that wet here in February that they don't do enough weight gain quick enough to upset them.
It used to cover 10% of pasturella strains think it does bit more now but not much more.
quavers
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- aberdeenshire
hi folks , whats folks using for minerals when putting feeding lambs onto zoom kale ? having a look at buckets lying a round there iodine content are 30m/kg , 60mkg and 360m/kg the first 2 are more a feed bucket and the last a mineral bucket , asked at the local store and he was pushing a finishing bucket . was thinking more a mineral bucket myself to be fed to lleyn lambs
thanks quavers
thanks quavers
Never fed a bucket of minerals to a fattening lamb yet. Seems like an expense that's not needed. No doubt all the professionals will be along shortly and shoot me down,but you can over complicate you life. Mole valley mineral buckets weren't around hundreds of years ago, I'm fairly sure lambs were tho, they also probably got fat.
romneymarsh
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- Romney Marsh
Not lambs as we know them . Most lambs were taken over winter and sold fat in the following summer off grass after shearing , fat as and heavy 50-60 kg
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I certainly saw a lift when I gave a TE drench (mostly for copper & iodine) when I was grazing brassicas in the summer/autumn, and could see a difference in their coats. That said, the lambs looked to be doing reasonably well before, but just stalled a bit in finishing. Had a handful with swollen/scabby ears before I drenched them too, which I put down to Iodine deficiency, and supplementing (Welsh Drench at 7p/lamb) stopped it dead.
I sell mine in April the following year, after shearing(in October) and heavy 44kg
^^^only 2 proffesionals I'm surprised ^^^
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
^^^only 2 proffesionals I'm surprised ^^^
Why thank you for the complement kind sir.
I must admit I was trying to sell my April born lambs at 44kg before the winter set in and they started taking feed off the ewes. Whatever works for you.
Mine were all bought in, just a case of holding them for as long as I can hold my nerve without them getting to fat.Why thank you for the complement kind sir.
I must admit I was trying to sell my April born lambs at 44kg before the winter set in and they started taking feed off the ewes. Whatever works for you.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
So not giving them any mins is an effective way of holding them back then?
Not knocking, I appreciate you're doing a different thing, and it works for you.
Ah yes that's the reason, can I join you as a professional? Or am I just to tight?So not giving them any mins is an effective way of holding them back then?
Not knocking, I appreciate you're doing a different thing, and it works for you.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Ah yes that's the reason, can I join you as a professional? Or am I just to tight?
I'm sure you're every bit the professional already.
Nowt wrong with being tight, but I'm sure you also know that sometimes it's worth spending a pound, as long as you get two back. Everyone runs a different system. Yours might be holding lambs until the price goes through the roof in April (as do I with anything left by Christmas), lots will be looking to get max performance from the crop and shipping them out sooner.
JD-Kid
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- Akaroa.. New Zealand
gave lambs here LSD drench and they had a lift while on rapes etc
know of older guys saying drill rapes etc with bluestone for a start thinking low in copper but it's more a case of high in iron or soil intakes
boron will lift animals use of vit D leading to better Ca /P and Mg use that will flow along with iodine then with higher growth iron and copper selium B12 etc etc ...
i don't trust magic buckets and also mono type grazeing is starting to show alot of probs if looked in to harder
beltextexel
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- Scorton, North Yorkshire
Maybe repeating a bit here but what is best forage crop to drill in the last 2 weeks of August or beginning of September? No need for regrowth and would want to graze from dec - March. Cheers