Domestic rhi

Baker9

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
N Ireland BT47
Ive had a payment of £1300 for my air source heat pump which I understand will be deducted from any future payments. But how will they calculate how many kwh i'm using?

They will deem it, ie. guestimate how much energy you should be using. They do not want the possibility of anyone being subsidised to produce heat at less than the cost of production. For instance if the RHI payment is 12,2p/Kwhr and the heat costs you 8p/Kwhr to produce, the government do not want you claiming too much. Only senior civil servants and MPs are allowed to screw the system, us lesser mortals must obey the rules.
 

NavitasBen

Member
Location
Somerset
they will substract the £1300 in equal proportion from each RHI payment. Quarterly payments for 7 years = 28 payments, so you will have (1300/28 = £42.43) £42.43 deducted from each quarterly RHI payment.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
But how will they calculate how many kwh i'm using?

It will be taken from the Green Deal Assessment that you need to have done, which will include a figure on your heat requirement (based on your 'habitable area' if you haven't had it done yet and there is room to make the outbuildings habitable too:whistle:).
 

Daniel

Member
It will be taken from the Green Deal Assessment that you need to have done, which will include a figure on your heat requirement (based on your 'habitable area' if you haven't had it done yet and there is room to make the outbuildings habitable too:whistle:).

Too late, I've had one done to claim the initial payment.
It says my space heating demand is 8379kwh per year, and my water heating is 2310kwh per year. I take it that isn't much, especially as they sold me the system and insulation based on how efficient it was!
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Too late, I've had one done to claim the initial payment.
It says my space heating demand is 8379kwh per year, and my water heating is 2310kwh per year. I take it that isn't much, especially as they sold me the system and insulation based on how efficient it was!

Ouch! I take it you have full insulation all round, etc? My space heating was 23,823 kWh and water 2935 kWh, and I didn't realise until after that I should have maximised any available 'habitable' space. We have loft insulation and a couple of double glazed windows, but a old listed house (a split farmhouse, so essentially a 3 bed semi) in a conservation area. Not much that they could say needed to/could be done to improve efficiency.
 

Daniel

Member
It was built in 2012, 150mm of celotex in the roof. Blockwork, airgap, 125mm celotex, airgap, plasterboard in the walls, 75mm celotex in the floor then a screed. It cost about £900 to heat and light last year, 130m2 3 bed chalet bungalow, with a wood burner.

Maybe I should have skimped on the celotex!
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
It was built in 2012, 150mm of celotex in the roof. Blockwork, airgap, 125mm celotex, airgap, plasterboard in the walls, 75mm celotex in the floor then a screed. It cost about £900 to heat and light last year, 130m2 3 bed chalet bungalow, with a wood burner.

Maybe I should have skimped on the celotex!

But at least your heat & light bill is half of mine. I'm going to need the extra RHI to allow me to keep heating the night sky. :)
 

Penmoel

Member
Perhaps I should look it up eleswhere but how does this domestic rhi apply to rented property, if we put a wood burner in a rented property can i as landlord claim the rhi payment on the deemed use of the house?
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Perhaps I should look it up eleswhere but how does this domestic rhi apply to rented property, if we put a wood burner in a rented property can i as landlord claim the rhi payment on the deemed use of the house?

From the above link....

"Anyone who owns a heating system or resides
in the property it’s installed in can apply for the
Domestic RHI. You’ll be asked to select which type
of owner you are, from owner-occupier, registered
social landlord or private landlord, and the
questions we will ask you will vary accordingly."
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Does anyone know of a 6okw logburner with MCS accreditation for domestic RHI ? or is 45kw the biggest ? thanks.

If you follow the OFGEM link I posted above, there is a link to a list of MCS accredited boilers, according to manufacturer & technology. That would narrow down to a list of log burners to start searching.
 

NavitasBen

Member
Location
Somerset
If they were installed separately, yes. If installed on the same system the "installed capacity" would be greater than the 45kW threshold and wouldn't be eligible. One registers an "installation" with MCS, rather than the boiler(s).
 

custard

Member
Location
scottish borders
Check your product
There is no limit on capacity, the size of your system
in kilowatts, but systems must be certified by the
Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS) or an
equivalent scheme

This is from the ofgem essential guide as posted by Neilo above, I can not find the '45kw limit' ?
 

NavitasBen

Member
Location
Somerset
45kW is the limit for MCS certificate registrations.

From http://www.microgenerationcertification.org/about-us/scheme

"...MCS covers electricity generating technologies with a capacity of up to 50kW, and heat generating technologies with a capacity of up to 45kW."

You need an MCS certificate to apply for the domestic RHI, and you can't get an MCS certificate for a boiler over 45kW. Herego, above 45kW it will be impossible to get RHI accreditation.
 

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