Trees to plant

Mervyn

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im not sure if this is the right section but anyways looking to fell a pine wood then replant what sort of trees are best to plant we are 1100 feet above sea level so need to be quiet hardy the timber will be used for fire wood not wanting to much maintenance I was wondering about a popular any advice please
 

woodworm

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Location
Thetford Norfolk
Please take it from me, Eucalyptus at 1100ft above sea level is not a good idea. Even AT sea level its a struggle, unless they have some better varieties than i was sold 4 years ago. Its been a real struggle, especially with rabbits and deer. We have Glaucesans Rodwyi and Robinia and I cancelled my order for another load which were due to be delivered in March due to the poor growth.
At the same time, the forestry commission planted some in an area totally surrounded by 25 year old pine, and they are now 4-5m tall and growing well.
Your call
 

Mervyn

Member
Don't really like the sound of them really I want some thing that grows well that I can forget about for a few years and harvest again any more suggestions
 

renewablejohn

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Location
lancs
Please take it from me, Eucalyptus at 1100ft above sea level is not a good idea. Even AT sea level its a struggle, unless they have some better varieties than i was sold 4 years ago. Its been a real struggle, especially with rabbits and deer. We have Glaucesans Rodwyi and Robinia and I cancelled my order for another load which were due to be delivered in March due to the poor growth.
At the same time, the forestry commission planted some in an area totally surrounded by 25 year old pine, and they are now 4-5m tall and growing well.
Your call
What variety of eucalyptus did you plant.
 
Location
East Mids
im not sure if this is the right section but anyways looking to fell a pine wood then replant what sort of trees are best to plant we are 1100 feet above sea level so need to be quiet hardy the timber will be used for fire wood not wanting to much maintenance I was wondering about a popular any advice please
You're going to need a felling licence to fell your pines anyway so I would take some advice from a forester as soil type and depth of soil will also influence best choice, not just altitude. Not even sure which part of the UK you are in as no location in your profile, you may have grants available.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Its in my last post John

Still struggling to understand did you mean E Rubina not Robinia and E Rodwyi. Can I ask what the logic behind the choice was as your location on the east coast would not have been my first choice given the cold east winds and the relatively dry area. I am interested as I am currently doing trial plots and wondered whether to include these as there not on my original list.
 

woodworm

Member
Location
Thetford Norfolk
A relation of mine had the E Rodwayi, and E Nitens ( not E Rubina- sorry, my mistake), and then I had the Glaucescens.
They were all selected by a guy who does a lot with Eucs and they were the ones he advised us to have.
The Glaucescens on the forestry commission ground have grown really well, but they are very well sheltered, ours are not.

I would go for sycamore if I was doing it again.
 

bovrill

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
East Essexshire
I'm putting in some hazel and some sweet chestnut with a view to coppicing them in the future. They might need a bit more looking after than you're meaning, but once they're up and running it's cutting every 5 to 25 years, depending on the size of log required.
 

farmerfred86

Member
BASIS
Location
Suffolk
What are the rules regarding tree planting on fallow/ELS grassland/ and field corner management areas?

I'm looking at hybrid willow but not sure it's the best choice for a woodchio biomass system?
 
Not sure but one thing we concluded when talking about this is, if you plant trees in fields, no matter how poor the land is you will never get it back to what it was., roots etc will always re surface when ploughing
 
So your telling me that, after say a 10 year SRC of willow, sending in a 400hp mulcher, like the one attached which we used last week (much better than a flail as it goes beneath the soil), will revert the land back to arable status?

you have obviously never used a sub soiler over an old hedge line - pulling out lumps of root for years to follow which block the drill and give the harrow man some exercise. Oh, and that's before we talk about any land drains that will be full of roots...
 

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farmerfred86

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Location
Suffolk
Not sure but one thing we concluded when talking about this is, if you plant trees in fields, no matter how poor the land is you will never get it back to what it was., roots etc will always re surface when ploughing
We have a boggy field that we used to pump to keep it for arable use. We've now left it and it's almost overgrown with wild grass/trees etc. it would be ideal for something like a hybrid willow I would think. But I'm not sure if we can touch it as it's in an els scheme?
 
Location
East Mids
We have a boggy field that we used to pump to keep it for arable use. We've now left it and it's almost overgrown with wild grass/trees etc. it would be ideal for something like a hybrid willow I would think. But I'm not sure if we can touch it as it's in an els scheme?
IF you're being paid for 5 years to keep it as no- or low-input grassland of course you can't plant trees on it, read your handbook, but how many years do you have left?
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
So your telling me that, after say a 10 year SRC of willow, sending in a 400hp mulcher, like the one attached which we used last week (much better than a flail as it goes beneath the soil), will revert the land back to arable status?

you have obviously never used a sub soiler over an old hedge line - pulling out lumps of root for years to follow which block the drill and give the harrow man some exercise. Oh, and that's before we talk about any land drains that will be full of roots...

Go in with a Seppi maxisoil flail and it will pulverise any roots or stones down to a depth of 20 inches then reinstate your drainage system to that depth. Why would you use a sub soiler in excess of the 20 inch of soil created. Used to have the same problems pulling up boulders with the sub soiler until I realised the depth wheel actually served a useful purpose.
 

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