- Location
- Essex
Has anyone heard what is being offered for next years crop. We growers seem to be kept in the dark on what is happening, need to make decisions soon on next years crop areas.
Sugar Beet Pricing.
- Thread starter Bill Turtle
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Arthur Living
Member
- Location
- cambridgeshire
Letter dropped on the doorstep today, £24 for next season. Not good!! And more things besides!!
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- Location
- Lincs / Notts
Link to NFU Sugar letter sent.
http://www.nfuonline.com/sectors/sugar/latest-news/nfu-and-british-sugar-agree-a-price/
http://www.nfuonline.com/sectors/sugar/latest-news/nfu-and-british-sugar-agree-a-price/
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
They were never going to miss the chance to screw the growers with other commodity prices dropping. They hold us in utter contempt.
- Location
- Lincs / Notts
Regarding transport. I see that they are forcing more people to sell beet ex farm and BS taking control of deliveries by offering a £1 per adjusted tonne bonus at end of season to those in the scheme. ( Or in other words penalising growers that don't by £1/ t !!). Cant be good for growers or independent hauliers as BS want to control everything we do and in some circumstances we take more of the risk.
Daniel
Member
- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
And replace it with? There's plenty of money in sugar, just set a sensible price (like this years) and increase it annually in line with inflation.
Any other break crop that doesn't cost you 3 t/ha yield on the following cereal & doesn't knacker the soil structure. There's too many growers growing <65 t/ha (adjusted) who are subsidising British Sugar. Beet is fine for 75+ t/ha growers who can lift it cleanly & early, or light land growers who get a good yield by lifting late & following with spring barley.
Where do you thnk your break even point is i.e. what yield penalty on the following crop & cost of soil repair vs a non-brassica combinable break like pulses, oats or linseed?
Niels
Member
- Location
- Netherlands/Suffolk
Appaling prices, shocked to read the letter and the news about BS demands.
So, who is giving up for next season and forever? Can't be many that want to continue!
So, who is giving up for next season and forever? Can't be many that want to continue!
You'd think so. As Daniel rightly says, what do you replace it with? BS rented some virgin land off a farm I do a bit of number crunching for with a rent of £200/acre + a formula that adds the SFP on top back to us. For just a bit of ploughing before & deep subsoiling afterwards that's hard to beat with non osr break crops.
- Location
- south norfolk
British sugar have been screwing farmers for years and now cereal prices have dropped it suits them fine.just ben out with subsoiler this afternoon to put right soil damage from last years beet that has been fallow all year.i expect the price to reach 20 pound a ton when quotas end
Nick...
Nick...
Daniel
Member
- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
Banged the wheat straight in behind the harvester with a Claydon last year so easy enough. We do well to get 8t/ha wheat whatever, while the beet did 88t/ha last year so it's definitely a good crop for us, just wish they'd leave it be!
shakerator
Member
- Location
- LINCS
I wish people would just call them cargills.
So sign your contracts boys so they can lock down their profits for Euronext sugar futures going forward. Farmers are giving BS a free option contract, with the shackles completely removed for the post quota era
So sign your contracts boys so they can lock down their profits for Euronext sugar futures going forward. Farmers are giving BS a free option contract, with the shackles completely removed for the post quota era
Honest john
Member
- Location
- Fenland
That's a 50,000 wage cut for me.
They employ young grads to look after us who wouldn't know a beet from a turnip.
They give us no choice on moving haulage to an unknown company.
No longer can we afford to stay with our haulier.
What to do now ??
Grow for AD.
Together ALL grow half off area.
Or just keep jumping higher for less.
It's so easy this farming job.
John.
They employ young grads to look after us who wouldn't know a beet from a turnip.
They give us no choice on moving haulage to an unknown company.
No longer can we afford to stay with our haulier.
What to do now ??
Grow for AD.
Together ALL grow half off area.
Or just keep jumping higher for less.
It's so easy this farming job.
John.
- Location
- East Yorkshire
NFU did a great job there then!! beet costs are seed fert chems and contract charges for usnothing to do with the price of wheat,
im no longer going to grow any just to line bs pockets. And as for the £1 a ton for using the haulage scheme that just seams a desperate ploy to recoup all the money bs have spent on maus etc.
im no longer going to grow any just to line bs pockets. And as for the £1 a ton for using the haulage scheme that just seams a desperate ploy to recoup all the money bs have spent on maus etc.
? BS is owned by ABF, not Cargill. Frontier is jointly owned by Cargill & ABF.
- Location
- S.E
Im just thinking about getting into beet....
shakerator
Member
- Location
- LINCS
I know I was being a bit tongue in cheek. I'm sure you get my point in so far as they are not just sugar processors/ traders but have their fingers on lots of commodity pies, so you might aswell call them cargill
dontknowanything
Member
- Location
- Cambridge
We average 82t/ha and this is now marginal at £24/t. If it was this price last year then it's a no brainer, not so clear cut now other commodities have fallen so far. Need to do some hard thinking.