Costs

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
I like DD, 60 acres of rape drilled in 8 hrs, inc travelling 6 ,miles each way, quarter of a tank of fuel:D

Should flea beetle get the better of it at least the establishment costs are reasonable.
 

tw15

Member
Location
DORSET
DD quartz osr this years cost to date
DD DRILLING £ 50.00
SEED HSS £ 1.50 (off the heep)
DAP £ 25.00
STUBBLE SPRAY £ 10.00
RAKE AND ROLL £ 14.00
PER HA
katamaran pre em £ (AWAITING THE BILL)

TOTAL TO DATE £100.50 HA
 

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
How do you get on with the depressions left by the wheelings of combine and trailers etc ?

This is the third year/time I have DD'd these fields and they have firmed up nicely. I remarked on another thread that the small indentations left by the combine appeared to have gone, and mostly they have. I drill at an angle to the combine, unload on headlands only to limit the areas really panned by 12 tonne trailers on super singles. That said the headlands were the best of the second wheat fields this year so I am not sure that's actually necessary.

By drilling at an angle any depressions are levelled and disappear. The ground is taking on a spongy feel as you walk over it now, must be getting something right.
 

tw15

Member
Location
DORSET
Will be drilling winter wheat and spring wheat the same . It is working and now on most of the home farm now in our 4th year and soils are improving and haven't had that yield drop some say you get after a couple of years.
2012 averaged 3 tons an acre (very bad bushel weights just like everyone else around here sold
2013 first wheats 4.3 tons average sold
2014 first wheats 4.5 tons average (est as nothing sold )
2013 spring wheat 3.1 tons an acre sold
2014 spring wheats3.5 tons (est )
 

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
Badshot we do the same drill at a angle and rake and roll the opposite to drilling .

Seems to help, but the headlands seem OK and they cant be done at an angle. Certainly helps with the trash flow through my drill.

Is it one of those tillso rake and rolls you use?
 

tw15

Member
Location
DORSET
No it is only a homemade 9 mtr reekie style tined rake with a drawbar to pull the rolls made out of a old tive drill . A proper straw rake would be better in heavy straw . I made it a few years ago to use after the mimtill drill and take out wheelings when rolling and it does do a fairly good with chopped straw so just carried on with it.
 
I like DD, 60 acres of rape drilled in 8 hrs, inc travelling 6 ,miles each way, quarter of a tank of fuel:D

Should flea beetle get the better of it at least the establishment costs are reasonable.

That's the way. I think farming has got too highly geared - we're meant to be an extractive or at least semi renewable industry but we same to spend more putting in than getting out both financially and physically ie cashflow, tractors etc.

And I think despite much debate about the need for flexibility (ie a byword for cultivation) the ultimate in flexibility is to be able to fill the no till drill up with fuel and some affordable seed and crack on with a job in an afternoon which would have taken a 3 days of messing about otherwise. Cheap, not much fossil fuel used, timely, good quality, less soil damage and effective. What's not to like about it? :)
 

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
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That's the way. I think farming has got too highly geared - we're meant to be an extractive or at least semi renewable industry but we same to spend more putting in than getting out both financially and physically ie cashflow, tractors etc.

And I think despite much debate about the need for flexibility (ie a byword for cultivation) the ultimate in flexibility is to be able to fill the no till drill up with fuel and some affordable seed and crack on with a job in an afternoon which would have taken a 3 days of messing about otherwise. Cheap, not much fossil fuel used, timely, good quality, less soil damage and effective. What's not to like about it? :)


I agree with all that except the seed was fecking expensive. Went in well though, just needs rolling when it dries enough later on.
 

franklin

New Member
Is it just a perception that you need to take out the wheelings anyway? Behind a wide combine, do what if 1/3 of the drilled plants dont grow? Even a thin bit here and there is sure to fill out in the same way those drilling on 60cm rows do.

Well, thats what I say to myself as I am direct drilling 100ac tomorrow :)
 

Jon

Member
Location
South Norfolk
Ha haa ! Having dropped the plough for some years now, it's the next step I think, but having the Kuhn version of your drill, it has made me think, ( I do like your front tank, good weight distribution )
 

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