Beet '22

farmerfred86

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BASIS
Location
Suffolk
3rd lift already?!?! Of how many? To wissi?
3rd and final lift (thank god!). Final lift was 50t/ha. Sugars now better too!
A lot went to Wissi as they didn't want to stop people lifting early but at the same time couldn't open Bury early as not enough being lifted.
Only 2mm here today so good conditions look like they will continue.
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
3rd and final lift (thank god!). Final lift was 50t/ha. Sugars now better too!
A lot went to Wissi as they didn't want to stop people lifting early but at the same time couldn't open Bury early as not enough being lifted.
Only 2mm here today so good conditions look like they will continue.
How come you can have all yours out early? Nearer 20 than 2mm here so far. Badly needed…..
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Now it’s going through the cleaner loader dirt has dropped from 4 to 6% down to average 1.5%. Sugars up to 16.5% now but I’m still lower than the factory average. North facing slope? But it least that piece stood the drought better.
Last year for us but we will keep the old cyclone to mess about growing a couple acres fodder beet for the sheep. Fun, rather than stress. I’ve a small 12m sprayer as well that can be beet only. Niece/nephew can get some experience growing the fodder beet. If we ever grow sugar beet again it will be a contract harvest and haul job. The days of harvesting 20 acres with a single row machine will soon be over for us and I’m glad of it. End of an era but I enjoyed the challenge by and large.
 

farmerfred86

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BASIS
Location
Suffolk
Ours have all been delivered to Bury; 68t/ha adjusted, and probably our cleanest ever at 2.64% and 16.83 sugar. The most important thing to the business is that we haven’t wrecked the soil structure and have a crop of winter wheat drilled in good conditions.
that's an incredible result this year. Especially if no irrigation. Will be top 5% I imagine.
 

Bill Turtle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Essex
No irrigation, but heavy land, and the drought broke a little earlier for us. Also no moth damage. They would have gone on to make a lot more yield since they had a good clean canopy, but the margin on the extra yield won’t compensate for loss of following crops.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Anybody find the dirt tare results a bit random?
I’ve had from 3.4% to 9% without the cleaner loader and from 1.3 % to 6% with the cleaner loader. It looks clean in the heap and spotless when through the cleaner loader but the results seem inconsistent and all over the place. My sugars are 1% lower than the factory average though coming up a bit now. Load payment was £820 for my cleanest load but only £700 for the one they said was 9% dirt. £120 knock off. Transport allowance is included. I reckon I lose more root tips than soil using the cleaner loader but overall the average dirt seems less as you’d expect but struggle to believe it was 6% for one load through the cleaner. Maybe they found a rotten beet and included it in the dirt tare but we have been picking off. 🤷
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Anybody find the dirt tare results a bit random?
I’ve had from 3.4% to 9% without the cleaner loader and from 1.3 % to 6% with the cleaner loader. It looks clean in the heap and spotless when through the cleaner loader but the results seem inconsistent and all over the place. My sugars are 1% lower than the factory average though coming up a bit now. Load payment was £820 for my cleanest load but only £700 for the one they said was 9% dirt. £120 knock off. Transport allowance is included. I reckon I lose more root tips than soil using the cleaner loader but overall the average dirt seems less as you’d expect but struggle to believe it was 6% for one load through the cleaner. Maybe they found a rotten beet and included it in the dirt tare but we have been picking off. 🤷
Complain with photos. It's a real bugbear of mine. I don't think it's fraudulent as others claim on behalf of BS, rather unrepresentative samples. I have expressed my displeasure so regularly that i have been invited to the tarehouse at newark but haven't made the time to do so. Sadly unless we make a fuss nothing will change.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Complain with photos. It's a real bugbear of mine. I don't think it's fraudulent as others claim on behalf of BS, rather unrepresentative samples. I have expressed my displeasure so regularly that i have been invited to the tarehouse at newark but haven't made the time to do so. Sadly unless we make a fuss nothing will change.
Agree it’s not deliberate fraud. I think it’s just a poor and inconsistent sampling system. I dint know whether they guide the sampler to a particular spot on the load or whether it goes to a random point. That might make some difference if it’s to where the bucket or cleaner loader fills it. We have mostly sand here but there are small areas of real clay that might influence the dirt tare unduly if they hit some roots off that patch in a load but overall I’d say we are very clean. Annoying when you’ve tried your best. To get the factory average that low I reckon some folk must be peeling them I’m 1 percent over the factory average dirt tare and 1 percent under the sugar.
 

tullah

Member
Location
Linconshire
Agree it’s not deliberate fraud. I think it’s just a poor and inconsistent sampling system. I dint know whether they guide the sampler to a particular spot on the load or whether it goes to a random point. That might make some difference if it’s to where the bucket or cleaner loader fills it. We have mostly sand here but there are small areas of real clay that might influence the dirt tare unduly if they hit some roots off that patch in a load but overall I’d say we are very clean. Annoying when you’ve tried your best. To get the factory average that low I reckon some folk must be peeling them I’m 1 percent over the factory average dirt tare and 1 percent under the sugar.
When loading a lorry via elevator, does the dirt fall to the sides or sit in the middle.
In the old days, if you were hauling your own, the clean stuff went up against the tail gate.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
The amount of rain we are getting this weekend, I dint think we will be lifting again for a good while. Done my stickiest land to leave a decent block of tops for the sheep. Just sand to go but it can get boggy. Tempted to leave it long term to grow a bit.
 

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