SFI error help please

newholland · Nov 1, 2023

Good afternoon everybody,

So ...... I have done our SFI application ..... all completed and no errors showing ...... but when I "validate it" to submit, it says it I must click "change" by the error icons...... but there does not seem to be any error icons showing - I am stuck in a loop of no way forwards. Has anybody else had this and how did you solve it? I have phoned RPA but nobody available. Trying to do this remotely from another continent doesn't help. Many thanks

chaffcutter · Nov 1, 2023

Yes I had this, went back and checked through all the land parcels and found a small difference in parcel size where the yard had expanded into part of the parcel, had to do an RLE1 form to correct it, still waiting at present.

newholland · Nov 1, 2023

Thank you @chaffcutter - can you expand on what you mean by this? - as in what did you compare to find the discrepancy ?

chaffcutter · Nov 1, 2023

Go to ’your land’ and check the area shown in your SFI application list matches the area in ‘ your land’, you need to do this for each parcel until you find it
that’s how I found ours, it was a whole 0.20 ha different!

newholland · Nov 1, 2023

Thank you @chaffcutter I could cry...... I can now see I have a 0.0001 hc difference ....... and now rpa has shut down the site for maintenance.....

newholland · Nov 1, 2023

TFF is a very useful thing, I am grateful to be part of agriculture, not many other industries would help each other like this. Its appreciated.

bazzer · Nov 1, 2023

newholland said:
TFF is a very useful thing, I am grateful to be part of agriculture, not many other industries would help each other like this. Its appreciated.

hi ,another question I have submitted my sfi about a month ago now and it is still saying checking application has anyone got the same .thanks

chaffcutter · Nov 2, 2023

Give them a ring to ask if there is anything specific holding it up that you may be able to clarify over the phone, you should at least give them a nudge

Dairyfarmerswife · Nov 3, 2023

newholland said:
TFF is a very useful thing, I am grateful to be part of agriculture, not many other industries would help each other like this. Its appreciated.

Agree. I had the same message as you and no error icon. Having read this thread, I had another go rather than wait for a response to my email to RPA. I had previously needed to amend some areas on parcels and lo and behold there was 0.0001 ha discrepancy - 1 metre square! Anyway adjustments made and it validated and is all sent off.

For a straight forward approval

newholland · Nov 3, 2023

I also found that our SFI hedge amounts were larger than compared to what the RPA has listed on each field parcel land record - this also caused an error, but does not show up so to speak.

Treg · Nov 3, 2023

bazzer said:
hi ,another question I have submitted my sfi about a month ago now and it is still saying checking application has anyone got the same .thanks

Yes I have the same

Horn&corn · Nov 8, 2023

newholland said:
I also found that our SFI hedge amounts were larger than compared to what the RPA has listed on each field parcel land record - this also caused an error, but does not show up so to speak.

How have you overcome this? I’ll have the same problem once I hit submit

bazzer · Nov 8, 2023

Treg said:
Yes I have the same

had a reply from them apologising for the delay and would get to it as soon as poss.

Treg · Nov 8, 2023

bazzer said:
had a reply from them apologising for the delay and would get to it as soon as poss.

I had a email on Monday apologising for the delay and would I like to start 1st December or 1st February when my SFi 22 finishes.

Vader · Nov 10, 2023

newholland said:
I also found that our SFI hedge amounts were larger than compared to what the RPA has listed on each field parcel land record - this also caused an error, but does not show up so to speak.

Our hedges are that different from what RPA has there is no chance to do a hedge claim.
Tried in past to correct it.
But they keep getting it wrong.

Frank-the-Wool · Nov 10, 2023

Vader said:
Our hedges are that different from what RPA has there is no chance to do a hedge claim.
Tried in past to correct it.
But they keep getting it wrong.

I thought they said that historic hedge lengths were irrelevant and you just put in your measurement which they would accept.

newholland · Nov 10, 2023

Horn&corn said:
How have you overcome this? I’ll have the same problem once I hit submit

Hello, I changed the SFI hedges to be slightly less than what the RPA show. The application then went through. Not ideal, but was getting desperate.

Horn&corn · Nov 10, 2023

My defra hedge lengths are significantly less than reality so I’m holding out for the changes. It just takes so long to get a call back now from bps I’ve forgotten the questions and getting sceptical they will actually call me back.

chaffcutter · Nov 10, 2023

They aren’t using their figures on the website ‘land’ as the gaps are not omitted for SFI, measure them using the magic map tool or similar to get the actual length on the ground,
its in the guidance to do this

hudson74 · Dec 19, 2023

Dairyfarmerswife said:
Agree. I had the same message as you and no error icon. Having read this thread, I had another go rather than wait for a response to my email to RPA. I had previously needed to amend some areas on parcels and lo and behold there was 0.0001 ha discrepancy - 1 metre square! Anyway adjustments made and it validated and is all sent off. For a straight forward approval

Hello, Can i ask how you amended the parcel area. I'm having the same problem and time is fast running out !!

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