Night Vision Scopes

Dave6170 · Nov 24, 2023

Jerry said:
Yes you do, I move it from my 243 to my 17HMR all the time. Find it good on both and comfortably take shots out to 150m at night with the 243

What kind of scope do you have on your .243?

Jerry · Nov 24, 2023

Dave6170 said:
What kind of scope do you have on your .243?

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davidroberts30 · Nov 24, 2023

Phil P said:
To be fair, it is literally entirely level night vision camera and you’ll struggle to find one cheaper! As the saying goes “you get what you pay for” but it does do the job.
I find I get the best results if i zero it in on a target first to make sure the camera is sat square on the scope as it does affect the aim if it’s not bang on.

oh i quite agree

i just find it odd having to shoot the hmr off the hip otherwise i cant see the screen
ideal on ratty where you can set up on a bale and wait with the airrifle
i do need to get some window tint film to go on the screen as i cant turn the brightness down enough and the bright screen ruins whats left of my vision in the dark

milkloss · Nov 24, 2023

Jon said:
Would you prefer the bell adjustment or adjustment by the little knobs half way along, if you know what I mean.

I honestly haven’t used the pard much…. Having eyes that don’t adjust in the dark makes it’s awkward.
Definitely go for the saddle focus although if you use the scope at lower mags it doesn’t really need tweaking much at all. Higher mags I would tend to be leaning on something so a bell focus wouldn’t matter much. Side focus is quite stiff in the sidewinder but will probably loosen up.

I use detachable leopold scope rings and can move from rifle to rifle, dial the turrets in to the last zero and job done.

Doing it for the kids · Nov 24, 2023

Dave6170 said:
I ve got a pard add on. Works fine on the air rifle at close range but think I need to change my scope on my .243. Do I need a scope with parallax adjustment?

milkloss said:
Yes, and you’ll want one that can focus really close…like 10yards or something because the light wavelengths involved require shorter focussing ability. I have a hawke sidewinder which works well.

My add on has no parallax adjust on the scope but does work.

Take your scope in the shop and try it

Username_Required · Nov 24, 2023

I've got a wulf 4k day/night scope, seems to work really well. I only use it on an air-rifle but can easily see out to 150yds with the standard torch, you can get a VCSEL light for about £50 that will push the range out to 300yds or so.

I've don't like the any of the scope add-ons myself, but it's moving to a day-night scope is a compromise for daytime shooting - they're fine for close up buy they all start to get a bit grainy when you're at 10x mag.

I think I paid about £400 for mine at about a month old with the balance of a 3yr warranty.

Username_Required · Nov 24, 2023

Dave6170 said:
I ve got a pard add on. Works fine on the air rifle at close range but think I need to change my scope on my .243. Do I need a scope with parallax adjustment?

Yeah, it will need to be a side focus really, unless you've got freakishly long arms and small hands.

Mickstup · Nov 24, 2023

For ratting with the airgun I made one up using a camera on the scope and a mobile phone for the battery and screen, works well.

Phil P · Nov 24, 2023

davidroberts30 said:
i do need to get some window tint film to go on the screen as i cant turn the brightness down enough and the bright screen ruins whats left of my vision in the dark

That’s actually a pretty good idea

neilo · Nov 24, 2023

Has anybody got a Pard DS35? They look like the dog's danglies at not unreasonable money for NV. With range finder built in if you choose too.

Pard DS35 70 LRF Gen 2 Night Vision

The Pard DS35 70RF Gen 2 night vision scope features a new tube design to assist mounting, with improved software and circular IPS eye display.

www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk

Dave6170 · Nov 24, 2023

neilo said:
Has anybody got a Pard DS35? They look like the dog's danglies at not unreasonable money for NV. With range finder built in if you choose too.

Pard DS35 70 LRF Gen 2 Night Vision

The Pard DS35 70RF Gen 2 night vision scope features a new tube design to assist mounting, with improved software and circular IPS eye display.

www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk

Have you typed it into YouTube yet?

oilcan · Nov 24, 2023

GAM said:
Does anyone use or have recommendations of a Good reasonably priced Night vision Scope?

I use a Ward 700 add on with a Dark Engine Max 940 IR on a .223 which is very adequate to 300yards but the Hik Alpex or the new Arken Zulus are reputed to be very good and exceptional value for money. The Stalking Directory forum will be your best source of info.

Conan1301 · Nov 24, 2023

Arken zulus gets good reviews, built in range finder and ballistic calculator for around £500
You won't beat a thermal though

neilo · Nov 24, 2023

Dave6170 said:
Have you typed it into YouTube yet?

I don’t really do trawling through YouTube. Why? issues with it?

alomy75 · Nov 24, 2023

Will Blackburn said:
Might be worth updating to a .177 HMR. Turns an 50% shot into a 90%+.

Which is good because they’re so loud you only get one shot at it

Dave6170 · Nov 25, 2023

neilo said:
I don’t really do trawling through YouTube. Why? issues with it?

No, if I’m looking at something I usually type it in YouTube and someone has done a review of it. There were good videos of the pard add on when I was planning buying 1

neilo · Nov 25, 2023

Dave6170 said:
No, if I’m looking at something I usually type it in YouTube and someone has done a review of it. There were good videos of the pard add on when I was planning buying 1

All the reviews I’ve seen on it absolutely rave about it.

Lapwing · Nov 25, 2023

NV for non FAC air guns is pretty straightforward, but other than that the issue isn’t really seeing stuff at the range you want to shoot it at, but being able to see clearly & safely what is beyond it. A lot of the older kit around simply isn’t up to the job. Pard add ons with a decent IR illuminator are pretty good, or systems using G2+ & upwards tubes. Thermal is coming on, but expensive. Realistically a combination of thermal spotting device alongside a decent IR scope, either digital or tubed, gives the best of both technologies both for finding things, checking safety downrange, & accurate shooting.
Where centrefire rifles are being used at night, there is no place for cheap compromises with inadequate kit.

Kidds · Nov 25, 2023

alomy75 said:
Which is good because they’re so loud you only get one shot at it

What usually happens is that it is so loud they can't figure out what the noise was or which direction it came from so you do get another go if you shape yourself.

Universe · Nov 25, 2023

neilo said:
Has anybody got a Pard DS35? They look like the dog's danglies at not unreasonable money for NV. With range finder built in if you choose too.

Pard DS35 70 LRF Gen 2 Night Vision

The Pard DS35 70RF Gen 2 night vision scope features a new tube design to assist mounting, with improved software and circular IPS eye display.

www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk

They're good at their price point

If set up properly the auto ranging is good.
Of course there's better for more dollar, but where do you stop

When used with a thermal spotter... what more could you ask for

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