UK Farming Protest - Start organising...

wanton dwarf · Jan 28, 2024

I think many farmers who haven't got established crops & those have already gone into SFI & CS are gripped by the balls

Might be too late to do anything

Lots of other industries relying on Ag products are going to feel it this year as there simply won't be as much UK Ag products available

I doubt those in SFI or CS will protest

slackjawedyokel · Jan 28, 2024

yin ewe said:
On the way into tescos the public will want farmers to get a fair share for their produce and be all on for rewarding us for looking after the environment, soon as they get in through the door they'll want 3 chickens for a fiver and 2 litres of milk for 80p.

And that’s the trouble- policies on the back of “What Consumers Want” (high standards via FA, environmental improvements etc) when what customers DO is usually quite different from what they say they want.

Downtrodden Dad · Jan 28, 2024

yin ewe said:
On the way into tescos the public will want farmers to get a fair share for their produce and be all on for rewarding us for looking after the environment, soon as they get in through the door they'll want 3 chickens for a fiver and 2 litres of milk for 80p.

Accurate enough, also if on the way to tesco if they are held up by a tractor the support will quickly lessen.
By the way I’m not saying that something shouldn’t be done,it’s just very easy to alienate the people that you need help from.

wanton dwarf · Jan 28, 2024

yin ewe said:
Cut supply is my suggestion but was told that was idiotic.

SFI & CS does exactly that, as does rewilding, as does Climate Change & Carbon Credits

THAT tells you HMG & Supermarkets have a plan already in motion to import done & dusted

milkloss · Jan 28, 2024

tractorsandcows said:
Should we not protest at Ref Tractor HQ and use the protest to point out to the public the ridiculous terms of the scheme

Because the public will like the idea of training records, proof of recycling, carbon audits etc etc.

like I alluded to in another post..... take RT by the balls and add conditions that are beneficial to us. No non rt grain into mills as it's potentially unsafe. No foreign meat imports into ready meals as it's potentially unsafe and reared to inferior standards. The public will like that far better and paint the smarkets and processors as the evil ones.

glasshouse · Jan 28, 2024

Back in the Eu could be a slogan

Hilly · Jan 28, 2024

Panicnow said:
Own a mixed farm in Norfolk. I have a strong dislike for politicians when they are not just failing to do their job, but are complicit in abuse, whatever the sector.

Im right with you with that !

Mad Farmer · Jan 28, 2024

We need reform from within. The first protest should be at the NFU AGM.
we need to show the NFU how unhappy we are with the way they are representing us, especially the way they are handling RedTractor.

db9go · Jan 28, 2024

Mad Farmer said:
We need reform from within. The first protest should be at the NFU AGM.
we need to show the NFU how unhappy we are with the way they are representing us, especially the way they are handling RedTractor.

That may sound good were is the AGM held were as every town has Tesco and the rest

farenheit · Jan 28, 2024

glasshouse said:
Back in the Eu could be a slogan

Given that Peter Dawe was a Brexit party parliamentary candidate I think that may not get very far !

devonbeef · Jan 28, 2024

britishblue said:
I was watching a debate on France24 about the protests and all contributors got it across that right wing/left wing had nothing to do with protests. One section had a farmer putting what he had jagged a lamb with into an app and sending it off! He explained about the needless red tape.
Others spoke about the supermarker cartel and affect on prices farmer recieved. General public were shocked at the farmer price and the retailer price. Another good point raised about imported food grown with banned chemicals but allowed in with not a question.
All good points that affect us here as much as France. I think a lot of our problems are because of our pathetic union who should be holding others to account but just seem to jump into bed with them..We need the BFU more than ever!

All ask your livestock markets to include the BFU leaflet into the market reports to get the word out to a greater audience, it can be found in the Bfu green section , last post on leaflet thread, we need to be united in numbers.whatever happens,if everybody could print at least a few out and give to neighbours,the word will spread faster.

Lowland1 · Jan 28, 2024

tractorsandcows said:
An idiotic statement. Why would you destroy your own property. The government and the supermarkets will only laugh at you for doing that.
We need to do something that hurts them in their pocket before notice is taken

Why is it an idiotic statement. Surely when other professions go on strike by withholding their labour they'll also be forgoing renumeration. A week without supplying milk or eggs etc will hurt you in the short term but in the long term the benefits could far outweigh the losses. Supermarkets hate empty shelves that's what will hurt them in their pockets. Ploughing up their carparks is a criminal act as is blocking roads . Withholding your produce is totally legal.

yin ewe · Jan 28, 2024

Lowland1 said:
Why is it an idiotic statement. Surely when other professions go on strike by withholding their labour they'll also be forgoing renumeration. A week without supplying milk or eggs etc will hurt you in the short term but in the long term the benefits could far outweigh the losses. Supermarkets hate empty shelves that's what will hurt them in their pockets. Ploughing up their carparks is a criminal act as is blocking roads . Withholding your produce is totally legal.

Very few are willing to dump their produce, much easier to sail round tescos car park in their new tractor and dumping stuff for a week means a missed payment on said tractor next month.

Hilly · Jan 28, 2024

yin ewe said:
Very few are willing to dump their produce, much easier to sail round tescos car park in their new tractor and dumping stuff for a week means a missed payment on said tractor next month.

When you see the value of tractors they protest in it dose make me wonder and im a farmer !

yin ewe · Jan 28, 2024

Hilly said:
When you see the value of tractors they protest in it dose make me wonder and im a farmer !

I'm not against people buying new tractors, if no one buys new then there's no 2nd hand ones for cheapskates like me

Hilly · Jan 28, 2024

yin ewe said:
I'm not against people buying new tractors, if no one buys new then there's no 2nd hand ones for cheapskates like me

Im same , i have bought a new one once but i can barely justify a secondhand one now let alone new , i dont mind having old ones as long as they relatively reliable , it would be noce to justify a new un now and again mind !

yin ewe · Jan 28, 2024

Hilly said:
Im same , i have bought a new one once but i can barely justify a secondhand one now let alone new , i dont mind having old ones as long as they relatively reliable , it would be noce to justify a new un now and again mind !

The last new one we bought was a 135

. I could take it to protest as I has no mudguards now

Willie adie · Jan 28, 2024

Won't happen,
We are a bunch of cowards here, never put money where our mouths are, it always been all talk with Brits .

MF CI · Jan 28, 2024

Frank-the-Wool said:
It is confusing this thread and I am not sure what it is we are supposed to be protesting about.

Is not SFI/ELMS voluntary? If you don't want to take it up then just go for maximum production like many of my arable neighbours. In fact they are the ones who should be protesting as wheat and barley prices are on the low side to warrant that extra weeks skiing or the new Fendt and those who are tenants seem to be paying very high rents.
If the OP is a beef farmer then he should have had a good run the last few months, especially as feed prices have been less.

Most sheep farmers if they have kept control of their costs and produced what the market wants have had a good run.

Dairy farmers have struggled, but it looks as if the milk price is recovering and it was only a short time ago when they were getting record prices. If they didn't spend all the profits and expand then they will be set fair now. Higher cull cow prices and calf prices as well.

Top fruit farmers have had a torrid time but the reasons for that are not all down to the retailers.

What I am most concerned about is how we can break the monopoly powers of the abattoirs and processors, and less so the retailers as we still have a good number of them supporting farming.
The loss of small abattoirs and local outlets for any of our produce mean we do not have an alternative market where farmers have the opportunity to sell direct to the retailer and this is where it starts to go wrong.

The discussion or protest should be about how as farmers we take back some control of our markets and if possible cut out the middle man.
How many on here actually sell direct to the retailer or sell their own product to a customer direct? I would guess a very small %.

Gonna need a bigger placard.

Hilly · Jan 28, 2024

yin ewe said:
The last new one we bought was a 135 . I could take it to protest as I has no mudguards now

I bought this new and drove it for 22 years

sold now.

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