Not missed T0?

Salopian_Will · May 3, 2024

No T0 on anything this year and it does seem to have done any harm (touches wood). Yes the odd patch of yellow rust (something we wouldn’t normally see at all) but de minimus areas and not anything to worry about. A one off season or a waste of time?

T Hectares · May 3, 2024

Salopian_Will said:
No T0 on anything this year and it does seem to have done any harm (touches wood). Yes the odd patch of yellow rust (something we wouldn’t normally see at all) but de minimus areas and not anything to worry about. A one off season or a waste of time?

Not needed unless you are growing a poor Septoria variety or one prone to YR
I’ve moved to better Septoria varieties but traded it for the YR in Extase which next year will get some Teb at T0 and a cheap T1

I’d still go with 3c and Mn and whatever blw control may be needed at T0 timing ( same as we did before T0 became a thing )

Rob Holmes · May 3, 2024

T0’s came in with high input, high output varieties. Newer varieties have been bred to be more resistant to diseases which someway negates the need for T0’s, although agronomists are quite likely to still recommend that they are done

Salopian_Will · May 3, 2024

T Hectares said:
Not needed unless you are growing a poor Septoria variety or one prone to YR
I’ve moved to better Septoria varieties but traded it for the YR in Extase which next year will get some Teb at T0 and a cheap T1

I’d still go with 3c and Mn and whatever blw control may be needed at T0 timing ( same as we did before T0 became a thing )

Got some September sown wheat which still has not seen a sprayer…. Will get t1 tomorrow and some bws sometime after.

I can see the lack of growth reg everywhere with some very leggy crops, even where establishment was mixed to say the least. I think it has become too easy to stick some Fungicide in with growth reg.

Badshot · May 3, 2024

T0 and T1, and still the Crusoe is full of this new brown rust strain.
Nearly dropped it a few years ago, will be now.
Just had to go through again specifically for the brown rust.
Very disappointed.

Salopian_Will · May 3, 2024

Badshot said:
T0 and T1, and still the Crusoe is full of this new brown rust strain.
Nearly dropped it a few years ago, will be now.
Just had to go through again specifically for the brown rust.
Very disappointed.

not good.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen brown rust up here.

teslacoils · May 3, 2024

T0 is really early pgr and mineral. Fungicide as needed.

T Hectares · May 3, 2024

Badshot said:
T0 and T1, and still the Crusoe is full of this new brown rust strain.
Nearly dropped it a few years ago, will be now.
Just had to go through again specifically for the brown rust.
Very disappointed.

Yes, Gp1’s have superseded the Gp3’s as the group of death

Badshot · May 4, 2024

Salopian_Will said:
not good.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen brown rust up here.

We see it, but it's normally a late season, hot weather issue, easily controlled by tebuconazole.
Not this year.

BuskhillFarm · May 4, 2024

Haven’t done T0 in a couple of years, and couldn’t get on this year if I wanted too. At price of sprays I’m starting to wonder a good T1 and a cheap T3 would do. We are usually pretty dry through the T2 phase here

David. · May 4, 2024

Plenty of YR foci in Gleam at TO, so not at all concerned at having done one. How 0.5L of teb can be considered expensive thrown in with growth reg, I don't know

SilliamWhale · May 4, 2024

Stopped T0 when I stopped Bravo. Septoria is an issue here.

Just gone Univoq T1 as septoria pressure is high.

ollie989898 · May 4, 2024

T0 is for situations where you don't trust the farmer to get T1 on properly in time. Down here in the South West, we are a septoria melting pot, often have rust and lots of growth running with septoria which then affects any other emerging leaves. Running through crop with PGR and the like anyway so more justification to do it. I must say, with the loss of CTL I would be more hesitant to do it though.

David. · May 4, 2024

There was a lot of talk last year about T0 being a waste of money, the weather didn't play ball at all at T1 time, and then suddenly it looked like a good decision to do one.

principal skinner · May 4, 2024

ollie989898 said:
T0 is for situations where you don't trust the farmer to get T1 on properly in time. Down here in the South West, we are a septoria melting pot, often have rust and lots of growth running with septoria which then affects any other emerging leaves. Running through crop with PGR and the like anyway so more justification to do it. I must say, with the loss of CTL I would be more hesitant to do it though.

Or for farmers growing GP1’s. No teb and or strobe at T0 and you will chase the rust all season

Bigjon44 · May 4, 2024

Yeah skyfall covered in septoria here.chucked some vimoy at it T1 so hopefully dry it up a bit with some sunny weather????????

alomy75 · May 4, 2024

David. said:
There was a lot of talk last year about T0 being a waste of money, the weather didn't play ball at all at T1 time, and then suddenly it looked like a good decision to do one.

Exactly. My T1 went on today with leaf 2 just poking so I was probably 5 days late…but with a T0 applied I wasn’t too bothered that it’s been windy for days.

ajd132 · May 6, 2024

ollie989898 said:
T0 is for situations where you don't trust the farmer to get T1 on properly in time. Down here in the South West, we are a septoria melting pot, often have rust and lots of growth running with septoria which then affects any other emerging leaves. Running through crop with PGR and the like anyway so more justification to do it. I must say, with the loss of CTL I would be more hesitant to do it though.

T0 is for rust. I didn’t do any this year but wish I had on one block of forward extase.

idle git · May 6, 2024

Skyfall and Extase both had a T0 and are still filthy with YR and Septoria ,

ajd132 · May 6, 2024

idle git said:
Skyfall and Extase both had a T0 and are still filthy with YR and Septoria ,

I think extase may have broken down

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