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I expect that will vary a lot depending on soil type and plant species. For instance ryegrass seems to have been made by the fertiliser industry but other grasses can do quite well without bagged fert.

Is this an opportunity to get some warm season grasses going? Apart from maize, what are the options? I want to be able to graze in the event of a drought (!) or shortage of forage, so shying away from buckwheat and not too much linseed. Hemp is another plant I've heard suggested.

You're contradicting yourself there. SFI offers an alternative to participating in the commodity markets while at the same time building a bit of soil health. Supply and demand is crucifying the farmer thanks to corporate dominance. Don't listen to Bradshaw whining on about food security when...

I meant walk down any high street to see what's happened to local businesses who pay tax and business rates and support the local economy. Then look on the internet to see how much tax they pay.

You could easily stop it. Just as I could easily offshore my business.

Walk down any modern high street, find out how much tax Amazon pay and listen to how they treat some of their staff.

Which explains the increasing tax burden on individuals and UK companies who don't offshore.

Anyone growing this variety and any feedback from millers or bakers?

Er, the taxpayer is paying out the £44k. So yes, the taxpayer will be spending less on wild bird mix.

Have you told him about the wormery he's going to help you build?

They are just so obvious to normal people, I would be embarrassed to display my stupidity in public. Both to do with mob grazing though. Actually the first one was how to do it. The second one was divide your grass long ways, so they go up one side and come back down the other. I got to one...

I think Wakelyns are having an open weekend on the 18th, 19th and 20th of this month.

I would add that @The Ruminant spoke brilliantly at the first ever Groundswell and made me think "of course! Why didn't I think of that?" The following year, he spoke again and gave me another brilliant idea which I have been doing every since. It's possible I might have thought of it myself...

Yes.

Everything's for sale.

I even saw a cuckoo this morning.

Who else goes on the media and makes the point that farming is difficult and expensive as well as he did on the radio this morning? He's a brilliant communicator.

The science and innovation is there, just not the incentive. They prefer us to spend large sums of money buying it .

Grass grows without fertiliser and has done since before we were born. My point about rainforest products was in response to: "Also it has been proven many times that grass pure grass diets produce more methane than high concentrate one". Obviously you would have to read the label.

Its not wrong if you ignore all the energy and bought in feed needed to maintain a high yielding housed system; and since fertiliser has the biggest carbon footprint of all inputs, its use cannot be ignored. In any case, relying on rainforest products for feed supplies doesn't sound...