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Albrecht versus conventional soil testing - my experiments
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<blockquote data-quote="SilliamWhale" data-source="post: 6994" data-attributes="member: 1232"><p><strong>Re: Albrecht versus conventional soil testing - my experimen</strong></p><p></p><p>finding it a bit difficult to quote specific bits so some thoughts:</p><p></p><p>Andy H - Soil Test = pee test. When I watched the presentation by Paul he did use a Soil N test as part of the reasoning for it being crap. Most of us don't bother with soil N testing because of its unreliability and what he was also doing very well was recycling his existing macronutrients either with covers, animals, manure, residue and I'd agree that if you did a two year building phase with cattle in mob graze and soil primer you would have a barrow load of N for a cash crop in year 3. But to him it was a waste because he knew by then he wasn't losing so many nutrients because of the closed loop in the system if you get my drift - most of our farming doesn't close those loops either because of tillage, erosion, no livestock, poor rotations etc.</p><p></p><p>I've been intrigued by mob grazing for a while now and one of the big reasons is the sheer amount of fertility you are able to put on a confined space (urine/dung) that is immediatley left alone to be recycled, way way more than any other grazing technique. BUT - in this case he had two years out and one year in of cash crop. He wouldn't have been able to extend that beyond one more year unless he went legume and even then it wouldn't last long without a fertility building phase of some sort. </p><p></p><p>Ca/Mg - Are your soils short of either Ca or Mg? I don't mean in terms of ratio but in absolute soil test terms?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SilliamWhale, post: 6994, member: 1232"] [b]Re: Albrecht versus conventional soil testing - my experimen[/b] finding it a bit difficult to quote specific bits so some thoughts: Andy H - Soil Test = pee test. When I watched the presentation by Paul he did use a Soil N test as part of the reasoning for it being crap. Most of us don't bother with soil N testing because of its unreliability and what he was also doing very well was recycling his existing macronutrients either with covers, animals, manure, residue and I'd agree that if you did a two year building phase with cattle in mob graze and soil primer you would have a barrow load of N for a cash crop in year 3. But to him it was a waste because he knew by then he wasn't losing so many nutrients because of the closed loop in the system if you get my drift - most of our farming doesn't close those loops either because of tillage, erosion, no livestock, poor rotations etc. I've been intrigued by mob grazing for a while now and one of the big reasons is the sheer amount of fertility you are able to put on a confined space (urine/dung) that is immediatley left alone to be recycled, way way more than any other grazing technique. BUT - in this case he had two years out and one year in of cash crop. He wouldn't have been able to extend that beyond one more year unless he went legume and even then it wouldn't last long without a fertility building phase of some sort. Ca/Mg - Are your soils short of either Ca or Mg? I don't mean in terms of ratio but in absolute soil test terms? [/QUOTE]
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