Massey Ferguson 8s

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
When I decide to buy one I wanted a fresh off the production line one that had all the mods done at the factory but when I had quotes the price difference for an older machine that had been sat about waiting for the gearbox replacement was vast so going into it with my eyes open with a dealer I trust to have done all the updates and a mechanic doing it who has worked here previously and I know I decided to take a risk and with a 5 year agco warranty I’m not overly worried
 

snipe

Member
Location
west yorkshire
It’s a 2022 which we own. The transmission is very unpredictable.
some time when slowing down for the headland turn, it suddenly takes off
engine revs flat out and then takes time to return to normal engine speed.
It also does this at road junctions which is not very helpful. And we have had a couple of near misses. Including at a pedestrian crossing.
when you use cruise control in the field it hardly ever runs the same speed on two consecutive turns. Anti stall quite often kicks in even when switched off. The other morning when reversing out off the barn, every time you lifted your foot on the clutch pedal the engine revs went to full throttle.
And almost certainly every day at some point all the screens will go off.
You then sit in the field for some time having to reprogram all the settings.
Ours sometimes over rev when changing down an accelerate the tractor, not quite as bad as yours sound but a bit unnerving when trying to slow down. Massey not heard of this till I mentioned it 🤣

would anyone be able to help me with a speed steer issue and do a test on there tractor that only take 60seconds. If i turn speed steer on then turn to a different page on the screen then get off the seat for over 40 seconds ish, When I get back in and go to the speed steer screen, speed steer is turned off with is fair enough but it won’t let me turn it back on unless you turn the tractor off and restart it. After 5 weeks in the dealers and 16hrs put on my tractor they have decided it’s a built in safety feature. Anyone’s elses tractor do this?
 

killie_cowboy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
Will be different from deal to deal but in our area ,MF tractors are very expensive maybe the dealer is looking for more out of the deal who knows, very few new ones sold in our area by the dealer more sold in the area by the dealer to thd South of us ,selling in to the other dealers area
It's never long before you're along to trash the Fergies, you should take up a new hobby of some sorts 😂

It would be fair to say they've had a sticky start changing over from Valtra to Massey but they're putting out a fair few machines now, a lot of tractors in their yard ready to go particularly 8S' and a good few trade ins.

Cousin through in Ayrshire has just bought a brand new 5S, they're pretty competitively priced tractor nowadays. The difference between that 5S.135 and a Valtra G125 from the same dealer was 9K supposedly!
 

Speedstar

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
It's never long before you're along to trash the Fergies, you should take up a new hobby of some sorts 😂

It would be fair to say they've had a sticky start changing over from Valtra to Massey but they're putting out a fair few machines now, a lot of tractors in their yard ready to go particularly 8S' and a good few trade ins.

Cousin through in Ayrshire has just bought a brand new 5S, they're pretty competitively priced tractor nowadays. The difference between that 5S.135 and a Valtra G125 from the same dealer was 9K supposedly!
You must be looking a different dealers yard , yes lots of tractors in there but very few going old , even some very die hard MF boys have gone to different colours, which says a lot , a new 8s has to be very cheap with any gearbox other than dyna vt as they are worthless second hand ,we have a mf tractor and it's does a good job but its a dyna vt ,would you want buy a new tractor that's worth less than have its new price at 6 months old ?, money is tight In farming at the moment and people can not afford to blow that much on something that's not right and hard to sell on again ,if the problems the guy above has been having was on car or truck it would have been a major recall on the grounds of safety, I would not let any of my lads take that tractor like that on the road
 

killie_cowboy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
You must be looking a different dealers yard , yes lots of tractors in there but very few going old , even some very die hard MF boys have gone to different colours, which says a lot , a new 8s has to be very cheap with any gearbox other than dyna vt as they are worthless second hand ,we have a mf tractor and it's does a good job but its a dyna vt ,would you want buy a new tractor that's worth less than have its new price at 6 months old ?, money is tight In farming at the moment and people can not afford to blow that much on something that's not right and hard to sell on again ,if the problems the guy above has been having was on car or truck it would have been a major recall on the grounds of safety, I would not let any of my lads take that tractor like that on the road
It is what it is, just don't buy the tractor you've heard bad reports about, but you'll struggle. People on this thread have 8S' with various Gboxes and get on fine where youre just in the corner spouting off he said she saids with your fendt-branded tin-foil hat.
You've not had an 8S any more than I have.The 7S' are well proven and what I would choose in dyna 6 if my arse was lined with diamonds. You've personally had bad luck with dyna 6 and have a right to have a dim view of it, but not everybody is the same.

I'd personally rather jump in the burn than go back to the former massey dealer nowadays and I'm not the only one. Quite glad they've changed franchises in the end.

The autochanger feature whatever you want to call it which i think was mentioned earlier is horrible and I never use it but is it really that hard to use a T-bar to change gears? Too many saft steering wheel attendants about.

Every make has its lemons, every single one. I believe the bother with the dyna 7 was with oil channels in the castings not directing it where it needed to be causing premature failure but they will sort it out.
 

Lofty1984

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Ours sometimes over rev when changing down an accelerate the tractor, not quite as bad as yours sound but a bit unnerving when trying to slow down. Massey not heard of this till I mentioned it 🤣

would anyone be able to help me with a speed steer issue and do a test on there tractor that only take 60seconds. If i turn speed steer on then turn to a different page on the screen then get off the seat for over 40 seconds ish, When I get back in and go to the speed steer screen, speed steer is turned off with is fair enough but it won’t let me turn it back on unless you turn the tractor off and restart it. After 5 weeks in the dealers and 16hrs put on my tractor they have decided it’s a built in safety feature. Anyone’s elses tractor do this?
That’s mother regs for you with the speed steer although it shouldn’t make you have to switch it off to get it back on though
 

Speedstar

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
It is what it is, just don't buy the tractor you've heard bad reports about, but you'll struggle. People on this thread have 8S' with various Gboxes and get on fine where youre just in the corner spouting off he said she saids with your fendt-branded tin-foil hat.
You've not had an 8S any more than I have.The 7S' are well proven and what I would choose in dyna 6 if my arse was lined with diamonds. You've personally had bad luck with dyna 6 and have a right to have a dim view of it, but not everybody is the same.

I'd personally rather jump in the burn than go back to the former massey dealer nowadays and I'm not the only one. Quite glad they've changed franchises in the end.

The autochanger feature whatever you want to call it which i think was mentioned earlier is horrible and I never use it but is it really that hard to use a T-bar to change gears? Too many saft steering wheel attendants about.

Every make has its lemons, every single one. I believe the bother with the dyna 7 was with oil channels in the castings not directing it where it needed to be causing premature failure but they will sort it out.
We had an 8s for 3 or 4 weeks when the first came out and could not get on with it at all. 4 or 5 people drove it, and none of them said, "Can we keep that tractor 🚜
 

KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
I only had a brief demo on one with on a baler for a couple of hours it was a 205 and had gears no idea other than that on the model .

I was pleasantly surprised by it I thought it had a lot of potential. We didn't get a demo of a dyna vt as they only had a 305 to try and the price was too far out to consider.
 

Spud

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
I've not got an 8S, but have been using DynaVT Masseys since 2008. Having put a fair few hours on 3 Dynat VT's, I'm struggling to understand why anyone would buy a tractor without a CVT in 2024.
Indeed.
We have 5 dyna VT's, two dyna6 runabout/any driver 6480's and an old dyna shift. All have a place but the higher the HP the more a vt makes sense
 

Vitu

Member
Location
Hampshire
Ar what point if some one gets hurt with that tractor do mf take full responsibility ?
If I was you I would be sending it back as it's not fit for for the job and get a dyna vt out of them
Been trying to get Agco to come to the table but don’t seem interested.
I expect they don’t want another one back, sat in the dealers yard.
You only have to look at how many have been sat in dealers yard for a long time. And any other colour dealer will only take it in if it’s dirt cheap, if at all.
We have ran Agco tractors for 30+ years, but I can see that ending sometime soon
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
I've not got an 8S, but have been using DynaVT Masseys since 2008. Having put a fair few hours on 3 Dynat VT's, I'm struggling to understand why anyone would buy a tractor without a CVT in 2024.
The 10+ grand has an input. The tractor we’ve just bought is usually driven by my brother he said to me why would we want to spend 10k to need more hp to do the same job to get the same money secondhand as a dynashift im sure they are nice to drive but we have never had it so dont miss it and it doesn’t seem a very good business decision as our jobs are just drilling cultivating baling etc be different on a spud harvester etc I suspect
 

Speedstar

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
Been trying to get Agco to come to the table but don’t seem interested.
I expect they don’t want another one back, sat in the dealers yard.
You only have to look at how many have been sat in dealers yard for a long time. And any other colour dealer will only take it in if it’s dirt cheap, if at all.
We have ran Agco tractors for 30+ years, but I can see that ending sometime soon
That is very disappointing , we were the same 35+ years with them & got no ware with them when we had gearbox & axle problems ,so we moved over to Fendt with the same dealer & have never looked back since
 

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