Are you BAME, LBGT, a new entrant from the city, a young farmer or just a bit odd?

Does that mean that when it falls out you won't be special anymore?
NO not at all! You have then become venerable, which is also special.
My once flowing locks have dwindled in the past few years and i now have some white hair too so now I'm sporting a short horn roan look :)
 
However, agriculture as an industry has an image problem and people are more disconnected from food and farming than ever before.


Farming doesn't have an image problem. Agriculture has a Liberal & Socialist problem.

Quite evident in the Liberal & Socialist press which thinks nothing of spreading lies, hatred and fear in order to destroy our way of life.

I don't expect anyone to help others glibly destroying their livelihood, way of life and culture.

I have the same attitude to Socialists and Liberals as they have to me .. I do not entertain a word they say. When they've stopped calling white people, men, Conservatives all the names under the sun .. denigrating farming and food .. perhaps a civil adult conversation can occur.

Till then I'm deaf, beligerant and hostile.

Want change ? look in the mirror.
 
If they've reached 18 and don't know where food comes from, don't know what all the green and yellow fields they see on the telly are and haven't taken a train/ bus/ walk into the countryside to find out, then I stand by what I've written. 18 is an adult, not a child who needs their hand held.

I'm sorry but you could not be more wrong. Someone's age is just a number. Believe me, from my time working in schools a little bit, the range of abilities and outlooks in young people would scare you.

There are people about to leave secondary school today who cannot read and write. If they have not been able to learn these skills, heavens knows what else they don't have to ready them for adult life.

Not everyone has the same upbringing or background as you or I. Never pigeonhole people or make sweeping generalisations.

On the face of your statement, I would normally logically agree: by the age of 18 you should know where food comes from and not need your hand holding, but not everyone starts from the same starting place i'm afraid.
 
I think what is wrong with Britain, is we have stopped being English, Welsh or British or Scottish, and are now BAME or Gay or Muslim or whatever and no longer work together as a coherent community of British people, we need to stop labelling people and start just all being British or Welsh

Exactly. Identifying merely as 'British' is now almost seen as a bad thing; something to be ashamed of. These labels, they are devisive and serve no purpose. We are all just human beings. It has become popular to identify as something else other than default, particularly in politics, because it appears to gain you a better platform to speak from.
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
It could be argued farmers don't have a problem.. It's every body has a problem with farmers :(


Oppressed minority sor' of fing, innit.
There's a group of well meaning sorts inna city somewhere, in't there, organising bus loads of 'em to go on courses on how to cross a road inna built up area, 'n' stuff, yeah?


:):unsure::(:stinkyfeet::whistle:
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I'm sorry but you could not be more wrong. Someone's age is just a number. Believe me, from my time working in schools a little bit, the range of abilities and outlooks in young people would scare you.

There are people about to leave secondary school today who cannot read and write. If they have not been able to learn these skills, heavens knows what else they don't have to ready them for adult life.

Not everyone has the same upbringing or background as you or I. Never pigeonhole people or make sweeping generalisations.

On the face of your statement, I would normally logically agree: by the age of 18 you should know where food comes from and not need your hand holding, but not everyone starts from the same starting place i'm afraid.

Appreciate that not all would have reached maturity at eighteen, and yes, agree that age is just a number. The point I was trying to make (badly) is that someone who doesn't have those life skills is not someone I would trust with looking after my livestock, or with driving a large machine on roads also accessible to the public. The Agri industry is a high hazard industry and workers shouldn't just have a minimum level of competency to be working there.
 

Daniel Larn

Member
Farming doesn't have an image problem. Agriculture has a Liberal & Socialist problem.

Quite evident in the Liberal & Socialist press which thinks nothing of spreading lies, hatred and fear in order to destroy our way of life.

I don't expect anyone to help others glibly destroying their livelihood, way of life and culture.

I have the same attitude to Socialists and Liberals as they have to me .. I do not entertain a word they say. When they've stopped calling white people, men, Conservatives all the names under the sun .. denigrating farming and food .. perhaps a civil adult conversation can occur.

Till then I'm deaf, beligerant and hostile.

Want change ? look in the mirror.
That's the spirit!
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
I had a year 10 work experience girl here last week who's parents were in teaching and I've got a 2nd year vet student next week for a fortnight who's Dad used to run card shops. So neither from a farming background and both keen to have a go, incredible that we manage this unaided.

Kinda identify with this one..

I had 6-7 students of various types and backgrounds, but only one from even a hint of a farming background who was a young lass from a local family with a few sheep.

Most of the lads are still in Agriculture which is a pleasure to see... The lass went to another farm and the last I heard, had found Mr Right, a farmer... :)

Looking back, they were a diverse bunch with the usual issues and problems we all have at 17! Whether any would have ticked any of the PC boxes, I have not a clue and TBH, I really didn't care then, or now...

They were here to learn and help me, sometimes that even happened! (y)
 

MissSteak

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
(n) You’ve had six months since the last post in this thread - why not take an extra half hour and read them all before replying?
Pipe doon yoursel and away and bile yer heid you're just being cantankerous.

The post came up on my phone as a live thread, oh me how terrible that I've commented on it, christ get the keyboard warriors quick and maul me.
 

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