Are you voting today?

[spin cycle]

Surely it's to stop voter fraud. A driving licence will do, I can't see an issue

You have to pay a solicitor to ID you for all sorts of legal; agreements and transactions these days - now that really is pushing civil liberty in my book

could be a bit of snobbery on my part I suppose....if I'm away I don't mind identifying myself but should I really have to prove who I am in my village hall...we can go back 150 years by memory alone

 

[JP1]

could be a bit of snobbery on my part I suppose....if I'm away I don't mind identifying myself but should I really have to prove who I am in my village hall...we can go back 150 years by memory alone

if it stops (or likely helps stop) fraud elsewhere I think it's essential

As has been said before I'm more worried about the cost

Three (lovely) lady tellers from the Council in my village hall and I was the only voter in the past hour .......

 

[spin cycle]

if it stops (or likely helps stop) fraud elsewhere I think it's essential

As has been said before I'm more worried about the cost

Three (lovely) lady tellers from the Council in my village hall and I was the only voter in the past hour .......

why has voter fraud become an issue though?...it never was?

it's the new 'British disease'....regulate the 98% because they can't control the 2%

they should get a grip and run the country properly

 

[delilah]

could be a bit of snobbery on my part I suppose....if I'm away I don't mind identifying myself but should I really have to prove who I am in my village hall...we can go back 150 years by memory alone

And you don't look a day over 90.

 

[DrWazzock]

could be a bit of snobbery on my part I suppose....if I'm away I don't mind identifying myself but should I really have to prove who I am in my village hall...we can go back 150 years by memory alone

But the folk behind the desk are blow ins who don’t know anybody?
I had an identity card while I temporarily worked in France. You couldn’t function without one. Even the massive queues to be interviewed to get the card were a deterrent to spurious asylum seekers. That’s why they cross the channel to get here, can merge into the U.K. population largely undetected because for one thing there’s no easily verifiable single point way of proving who anybody is or isn’t. Anybody stopped on public transport in France without an identity card was in fairly deep trouble. Massive deterrent to illegal immigration.

 

[JohnGalway]

could be a bit of snobbery on my part I suppose....if I'm away I don't mind identifying myself but should I really have to prove who I am in my village hall...we can go back 150 years by memory alone

What would your opinion be if you saw someone who wasn't entitled to vote walked into a polling station and was handed a ballot?

I worked as a polling station clerk here for a few elections and randomers do turn up. If I or the guy who was working with me didn't know them, and they have no ID or won't produce it I certainly wasn't going to hand them a ballot.

Last referendum we had I didn't know either of the people working on the day and they didn't know me either.

 

[spin cycle]

But the folk behind the desk are blow ins who don’t know anybody?
I had an identity card while I temporarily worked in France. You couldn’t function without one. Even the massive queues to be interviewed to get the card were a deterrent to spurious asylum seekers. That’s why they cross the channel to get here, can merge into the U.K. population largely undetected because for one thing there’s no easily verifiable single point way of proving who anybody is or isn’t. Anybody stopped on public transport in France without an identity card was in fairly deep trouble. Massive deterrent to illegal immigration.

What would your opinion be if you saw someone who wasn't entitled to vote walked into a polling station and was handed a ballot?

I worked as a polling station clerk here for a few elections and randomers do turn up. If I or the guy who was working with me didn't know them, and they have no ID or won't produce it I certainly wasn't going to hand them a ballot.

Last referendum we had I didn't know either of the people working on the day and they didn't know me either.

I've never known any of the tellers so what has changed?

to my thinking if you turn up with your polling card that should be sufficient

 

[JohnGalway]

I've never known any of the tellers so what has changed?

to my thinking if you turn up with your polling card that should be sufficient

Often our laws are similar, iirc polling card isn't accepted as a form of ID here it's printed on it iirc. We've local & European elections in June so no doubt I'll get another soon enough. I've no issue with ID, if I walk into a branch of my bank they're not going to take my word I've got my millions stashed with them and I just need to withdraw one and leave the other hundred in the account

 

[spin cycle]

And you don't look a day over 90.

I could still out run your defence

 

[Hilly]

I’d like to think that a poor turn out will say something of the lack of interest in the current system and it’s participants

Its the only way ! They love us to vote only way to send areal message is no one vote at all , that will scare them big time .

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Its the only way ! They love us to vote only way to send areal message is no one vote at all , that will scare them big time .

Politicians interpret low turnout in whatever way suits them.
They are really scared of 'none of the above'.
They know that would properly demonstrate the general publics very low opinion of the candidates.

 

[Herdwick sheep]

Photo id.
Came in at 9 00 for tea after doing lambing stuff , had tea and we said “it’s pcc vote we need to go and vote” so firstly , had to look up who was on paper as NOT ONE had ever sent us anything , or even had any information into our house, or anywhere where I have been in the last few weeks. So had to find out their policies of good old google

Went down to polling station and said to the two guys there “have you been run off your feet”
“14 (fourteen) people voted all day!!!”

Then said “can I look at your photo Id “
Hadn’t got any!!
“Very sorry , can’t give you a paper!!


So we went back home and pot of tea had brewed and we never moved out again till we had to check sheep

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

I try to vote whenever possible, my thought being that in many parts of the world, folks never have the true freedom to do so.

My brother did 2 tours in Afghanistan, working towards giving democracy to people who didn't have it, so I vote every single time I get the chance to. Democracy is far from perfect, but it is infinitely better than the alternatives.

I won't be wasting petrol going to vote. (Crime job). I lost all respect for plod when they started taking the knee and the pee.

Our choice was blue, red, yellow or Reform. The Reform candidate said he will ban police from dancing in uniform and put an end to "Woke Policing".

The first PCC election was for individuals. Some had been serving police officers, others businessmen, civil servants, all walks of life. They gave you their CV , you voted for whoever you thought was most suitable. Now you vote for a political party, I think politics should be kept out of policing, I mean just look at London.

Policing should absolutely be apolitical, but seeing as it isn't I went to make sure I voted against the parties I didn't want to have deciding our policing priorities.

Even Boris got turned away as forgot his photo ID .when he brought the system in?

A more cynical person might think he did it for the attention.

That was a massive publicity stunt. He loves playing the clown, always has done.

 

[thorpe]

Police commissioner here not worth leaving the farm for that

especialy if you get done over while your gone!

 

[Netherfield]

I've never known any of the tellers so what has changed?

to my thinking if you turn up with your polling card that should be sufficient

So before we both got wed and moved out, I could effectively have taken my brothers card and voted, give it a few hours until the staff have a change and then voted with my own card.

Been postal voting for 20 odd years now, nowhere to park and I refused to walk a mile and half each way.

 

[Jameshenry]

If voting made a difference they wouldn't let us do it

 

[JP1]

Its the only way ! They love us to vote only way to send areal message is no one vote at all , that will scare them big time .

Not worked out how I could achieve this but I've made mention of this a few times before:

• Compulsory voting but give any vote a compulsory "None of the above" candidate forcing a re- election and another and another until voters gave a majority vote to a candidate they really believed in
• Some form of PR to give minority view voters representation
• Do away with devolved Governments and halve the number of constituencies
• Support better quality MP candidates by empowering them with professional support staff (almost like US State Governors) , restrict second jobs / businesses to Professional development or service only

 

[JP1]

Tim Passmore re-elected as Suffolk Police and Crime Commissioner

www.westsuffolk.gov.uk

No surprise then

The Lib Dem candidate offering to actually abolish the PCC result came last

 

[Danllan]

Voting here was for the Police and Crime Commissioner... and we have the same useless prat again, Dafydd Llewelyn from PC. He has achieved SFA despite being in the role since 2016.

There was less that a 25% turn out in Dyfed-Powys for this 'election' and he got 40% of the votes cast; so he has a mandate from ~10% of the electorate here and will get >£60k per year for continuing to be a pointless, useless prat that hardly anyone wants.


A campaign will now be started to call for the option of abolishing the role of PCC appears on the next voting form - I reckon that there is a good chance more people would vote for abolishing it than fir any candidate.

 

[Danllan]

Not worked out how I could achieve this but I've made mention of this a few times before:

• Compulsory voting but give any vote a compulsory "None of the above" candidate forcing a re- election and another and another until voters gave a majority vote to a candidate they really believed in
• Some form of PR to give minority view voters representation
• Do away with devolved Governments and halve the number of constituencies
• Support better quality MP candidates by empowering them with professional support staff (almost like US State Governors) , restrict second jobs / businesses to Professional development or service only

Not keen on compulsion, but if brought in there would have to be the 'none of the above' option (or option for the abolition of roles like PCC in that constituency).

You write of forcing elections 'until voters gave a majority vote to a candidate they really believed in', but that could equally be until they get sick of it and the cost and vote for any old sod just to stop the endless process.

PR has to come in, FPTP is utterly discredited now - the next General Election may well see a party such as Reform or the LDs with >6m votes and anything from only 10 down to 0 MPs.

Less constituencies would mean less representation and a higher workload for MPs, neither being a good thing in general terms. Giving MPs better staff - ideally unrelated - is a good idea, not sure how it will encourage better candidates. Upping pay is alright if removing other income sources.

Agree 100% with the second jobs bit, but be careful or @fudge will label you as 'prejudiced' for suggesting it, despite what you may regard as your moderate outlook on things...

Good post though, the country really needs significant change in a lot of fields.