BT /Open reach

jre

Member
Location
East Fife
A few months ago found 8 marker poles along the verge of a track I own and a marker in a field. Eventually discovered open reach had put them in ready to put poles up to put fibre cable in to 4 properties at the end of the track. Had a meeting with them one day and they claimed they couldn't find out who owned the track and field. Obviously not even tried to find me. They drew a wayleave up there and then wanted me to sign it!!!. Told them it would go to my agent to deal with. Been hassled every week since wanting an update. Was having a bad morning on Tuesday and the bu**er phoned again. Gave him have a right bollo**ing then. Told him if they'd done their job properly to begin with it could have been sorted ages ago. Absolute set of chancers.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
A few months ago found 8 marker poles along the verge of a track I own and a marker in a field. Eventually discovered open reach had put them in ready to put poles up to put fibre cable in to 4 properties at the end of the track. Had a meeting with them one day and they claimed they couldn't find out who owned the track and field. Obviously not even tried to find me. They drew a wayleave up there and then wanted me to sign it!!!. Told them it would go to my agent to deal with. Been hassled every week since wanting an update. Was having a bad morning on Tuesday and the bu**er phoned again. Gave him have a right bollo**ing then. Told him if they'd done their job properly to begin with it could have been sorted ages ago. Absolute set of chancers.
our l/lords refused to let us have faster broad band, as cable had to be moled in across our fields.

then they wrote and said we have to agree to cable, to 1 house, across our field.

refused, told the chap in the house, he agreed with us.

turns out we cannot stop them anyway, but they will pay us £400 for 'legal' advice, plus £1 metre, and take it down to our houses.

so, the l/lords, ( family) by being petty and awkward, have helped us get £1,000, payable to us, as occupiers :) :) :) (y) best not tell them, l think.

its actually cheaper to have broad band through sky, than the cable, so son tells us, l wouldn't have a clue.
 

theboytheboy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Portsmouth
I've 4 poles appeared about 10 year's ago whilst I was at the other end of the farm.

No wayleave offered, no contact etc

Could I make them remove them?

Ive wrote to 3 different ceos of openreach and never had a reply
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
A few months ago found 8 marker poles along the verge of a track I own and a marker in a field. Eventually discovered open reach had put them in ready to put poles up to put fibre cable in to 4 properties at the end of the track. Had a meeting with them one day and they claimed they couldn't find out who owned the track and field. Obviously not even tried to find me. They drew a wayleave up there and then wanted me to sign it!!!. Told them it would go to my agent to deal with. Been hassled every week since wanting an update. Was having a bad morning on Tuesday and the bu**er phoned again. Gave him have a right bollo**ing then. Told him if they'd done their job properly to begin with it could have been sorted ages ago. Absolute set of chancers.
And do not expect ANY wayleave payments from them either......!!
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
our l/lords refused to let us have faster broad band, as cable had to be moled in across our fields.

then they wrote and said we have to agree to cable, to 1 house, across our field.

refused, told the chap in the house, he agreed with us.

turns out we cannot stop them anyway, but they will pay us £400 for 'legal' advice, plus £1 metre, and take it down to our houses.

so, the l/lords, ( family) by being petty and awkward, have helped us get £1,000, payable to us, as occupiers :) :) :) (y) best not tell them, l think.

its actually cheaper to have broad band through sky, than the cable, so son tells us, l wouldn't have a clue.
Well that is not strictly correct, as you will need the fibre optic cable putting in to achive superfast BB, whoever is the provider.

One of our Tenants was telling me about the superfast broadband she has going to be getting according to Sky..... well not down 1/2 mile of copper she ain't!!! ;)
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Well that is not strictly correct, as you will need the fibre optic cable putting in to achive superfast BB, whoever is the provider.

One of our Tenants was telling me about the superfast broadband she has going to be getting according to Sky..... well not down 1/2 mile of copper she ain't!!! ;)
we are the end of the line, and its not really fibre optic, just a better connection.
 

jre

Member
Location
East Fife
And do not expect ANY wayleave payments from them either......!!
Got a payment out of them a few years ago when they put fibre cable to a phone tower on my land. It took a long time to get it sorted though. They tried every trick in the book to get me to sign early then as well. I'm in no hurry this time as well
 

Paddington

Member
Location
Soggy Shropshire
OH found a bunch of Openreachers in a field about to put a new pole in. They had left the gate open and there were lambs in the field. When challenged they said they had cleared it with the land owner. When asked who was the landowner (us) they said up at the farm, pointing vaguely. Who did they talk to ? They didn't know but there was a wayleave so they could carry on. they were told to leave the field and apply to us in writing, while we checked the wayleave. We had nothing to show they had a wayleave, but they never came back. The struts and stays they left found a good home. A few weeks later the poles were replaced by underground lines.
 

slackjawedyokel

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
What would the legal situation be if you found poles/wires/other infrastructure in your field which had never been agreed and there was no way leave for? If it got ‘cleared away’ to the edge of the field, would you be in the wrong?
(Obviously talking about phone/fibre; electric would be somewhat difficult from an H&S point of view).
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
What would the legal situation be if you found poles/wires/other infrastructure in your field which had never been agreed and there was no way leave for? If it got ‘cleared away’ to the edge of the field, would you be in the wrong?
(Obviously talking about phone/fibre; electric would be somewhat difficult from an H&S point of view).
If you know it's there, you have a duty of care. But the burden of proof is for the infrastructure owner to argue. But really, while it's not appropriate for them to do it without asking, we can't as farmers hold up the whole country from having any actual infrastructure. The issue of them just turning up and doing it wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so pee poor at doing a decent job.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
came back from mkt, to find the water board digging a trench across a new ley, They had asked, and l agreed, to put a new plastic pipe, up through a 4in asbestos main, no field disturbance, which was correct. Then, at a 'breather', asbestos changed to metal, so they started trenching.

out the field now, agree comp with our agent, and don't return till agreed, which is what happened.

l did mention the next field to cross, was a scheduled monument, they replaced to field boundary, missed out the field, and restarted on the next field, there's still 200 metres of rusty iron pipe in the middle of that new main.
 

nelly55

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Total waste of space BT,kept telling me when there was a fault on the line they slowed internet speeds down to keep the line going.We are at the end of the lane on worn out copper cable ,when they insisted we keep paying £243 call out it was the end.Starlink is brilliant should have told BT to do one along* time ago.
 

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