Calcium added in ewe grub mix

[PhilipB]

I've done a quick search on here and not found anything on this-

Last year we had quite a few prolapses. I recall that this can be linked to low calcium.

we home-mix barley for them, so I wondered if I could chuck a bit of calcium into the mix- if so, what sort?

Can a high calcium diet do a pregnant ewe any harm?

 

[ritchiekirkland]

I know it doesn’t help but there is definitely something about that on here so where ! I remember reading it !

 

[Pistonbroke]

We used to feed a TMR of straw, molasses and maize gluten. Also calcined magnacite but I can't remember what rate, nutritionist that made the ration up was adamant on putting it in but I can't remember having any prolapsed ewes or low calcium when they were on it. Something like 2kg in a 6 cubic metre wagon from hazy memory

 

[Bury the Trash]

The answer is to Search harder its all on here .

Free Access Minerals

Last year I had a calf bed out and my vet blood tested the cow to show low calcium could have been the reason so we have gone for a free access mineral with a bit higher calcium level in it. How do you ensure every cow gets its daily requirement ?

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Global Ovine is a very experienced Sheep specialist.

from the same thread,

Free Access Minerals

Last year I had a calf bed out and my vet blood tested the cow to show low calcium could have been the reason so we have gone for a free access mineral with a bit higher calcium level in it. How do you ensure every cow gets its daily requirement ?

thefarmingforum.co.uk

but there's plenty of other well written posts on here .

 

[Bury the Trash]

Its a complex subject , a balance of different factors and so far without definite simplistic answers

correct safe and balanced nutrition of the in lamb ewe, or all sheep for that matter is about more than just adding a bit extra of something .

 

[Downtrodden Dad]

I think the opposite, adding calcium will make it worse, too much calcium in the diet makes the ewe lazy in mobilising her own reserves. We had cows low in calcium and the vet said add magnesium to raise calcium
I’m sure something about it all by Global ovine explained it in detail

 

[Hill Ground]

low in calcium and the vet said add magnesium to raise calcium

Adding the mag makes the ewes calcium reserves more available to her I think.

Our vet advises high mag licks out from scanning onwards to help with this.

 

[Bury the Trash]

yes remember they cant / don't store Mg .

and also remember that some animals lick licks more than others


why cant life be more simple

 

[Pistonbroke]

yes remember they cant / don't store Mg .

and also remember that some animals lick licks more than others


why cant life be more simple

Maybe we should listen to Drakeford and plant the whole lot in trees. No sleepless nights,trips to the vet etc. Man's a genius

 

[Bury the Trash]

Maybe we should listen to Drakeford and plant the whole lot in trees. No sleepless nights,trips to the vet etc. Man's a genius

i know what you mean.

trouble is signing up for something very longterm might be a disappointing/restricting for the youngsters we might be handing it on to is what concerns me.

 

[Alias]

We used to feed sugar beet nuts to the hill ewes for a start then change to ewe rolls nearer lambing. Used to get quite a few going down short of calcium, always seemed to be injecting them. We blamed this on the calcium/phosphorus ratio being too high in the sugar beet. When we stopped feeding sugar beet and just used ewe rolls right through, we had a lot less problems.

 

[Pistonbroke]

i know what you mean.

trouble is signing up for something very longterm might be a disappointing/restricting for the youngsters we might be handing it on to is what concerns me.

Imagine the posts on here " Help needed , one of my 25,000 trees isn't looking well ". Not quite the same ,is it?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Imagine the posts on here " Help needed , one of my 25,000 trees isn't looking well ". Not quite the same ,is it?

yeah but wouldn't be on here it would be on the other TFF .....


'The Forester's Forum '
ha ha .

from what i see rabbits are going to be the big new problem eating saplings and still digging out hedges countryside will be over run with them even more than now

 

[PhilipB]

The answer is to Search harder its all on here .

Free Access Minerals

Last year I had a calf bed out and my vet blood tested the cow to show low calcium could have been the reason so we have gone for a free access mineral with a bit higher calcium level in it. How do you ensure every cow gets its daily requirement ?

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Global Ovine is a very experienced Sheep specialist.

from the same thread,

Free Access Minerals

Last year I had a calf bed out and my vet blood tested the cow to show low calcium could have been the reason so we have gone for a free access mineral with a bit higher calcium level in it. How do you ensure every cow gets its daily requirement ?

thefarmingforum.co.uk

but there's plenty of other well written posts on here .

Useful. thanks

 

[Global ovine]

I think the opposite, adding calcium will make it worse, too much calcium in the diet makes the ewe lazy in mobilising her own reserves. We had cows low in calcium and the vet said add magnesium to raise calcium
I’m sure something about it all by Global ovine explained it in detail

An accurate memory.

Never add Ca to a pregnant ruminant diet. This will turn off the mechanism to induce the dam to release Ca. In nature, the winter feed pinch induces the dam to be more efficient in releasing Ca.

Only add Mg if you want blood Ca levels increased, as Mg enables Ca to be released from the very large reserves in the dam's bones.

Best long term fix is to ensure soils where winter forage and where hay and silage is made to be in the pH range of 6.2 to 6.4 as this allows Mg ions in the soil to be exchanged by the pasture plants' root ends for the hydrogen ions it uses to facilitate mineral absorption. When soil temps are low (under 5 deg C) Mg loses its reactivity, especially if pH is also lower than that quoted above. This leads to larger uptakes of K (potassium ions) which play no part in facilitating the release of Ca into the blood. In fact they work negatively to the pregnant ewe and cow by reducing muscle action and control when Mg is at low blood levels.
Blood Magnesium levels only reflect that day's diet......no storage organ.

Liming to increase pH will lead to more Mg enriched pasture/hay/silage when it is most needed. There is more Mg in clovers and herbs.

Over-liming (pH 6.5+) may lead to some trace element deficiencies, especially Cobalt for Vit B12 on sandstone derived soils.

 

[livestock 1]

We used to feed sugar beet nuts to the hill ewes for a start then change to ewe rolls nearer lambing. Used to get quite a few going down short of calcium, always seemed to be injecting them. We blamed this on the calcium/phosphorus ratio being too high in the sugar beet. When we stopped feeding sugar beet and just used ewe rolls right through, we had a lot less problems.

That was the system here. Sugarbeet nuts then onto rolls or even a combination of nuts and rolls up to lambing. My uncle was keen on feeding sugarbeet nuts he was feeding it to mule ewes up to lambing one year and had 17 with prolapses one morning. I blamed the sb nuts swelling in their guts putting extra pressure on. They were ewe’s carrying multiples. That didn’t happen again after stopping the sbp near term end

 

[ritchiekirkland]

Found this

 

[ritchiekirkland]

Interesting read

 

[livestock 1]

Interesting read

You need free land for them

 

[ritchiekirkland]

You need free land for them

You mean debt free land ?