Cattle Passport Error

[Granite Farmer]

Whilst sorting cattle passports for market I've just noticed that I have put the breed of an animal (it is about 14-15m old) down as AAx when its clearly a Hereford cross out of an angus cow. Can it be amended or is it for the bin?

Only other option is to put it into the herd I suppose.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

BCMS will alter it and charge you £20 if I remember correctly.

Will it actually matter though who’s going to snitch on you…. the beast….

 

[Gedd]

Whilst sorting cattle passports for market I've just noticed that I have put the breed of an animal (it is about 14-15m old) down as AAx when its clearly a Hereford cross out of an angus cow. Can it be amended or is it for the bin?

Only other option is to put it into the herd I suppose.

Wont matter

 

[Fergieman]

BCMS will change breed FOC.
Cross out printed breed, write on new breed. Also cross out bull if its printed on.

 

[Flossie]

BCMS will alter it and charge you £20 if I remember correctly.

Will it actually matter though who’s going to snitch on you…. the beast….

Fairly sure there's no charge to change it. You just send it back with the changes marked on it and they'll send you an amended one.
I sold a calf with the wrong breed on the passport through the calf ring. I gave an extra fiver luck, and a stamped envelope to BCMS for their trouble. See it all the time in the calf ring. Heifers with testicles, etc 🫣

They do charge for a replacement passport though. I lost 2 calf passports, or they didn't come in the post, and I didn't notice until it was coming time to sell them. I can't remember the timescale, but because I'd gone over it (40 days maybe) I had to pay for them to be re-issued.

 

[milkloss]

Can’t see the problem myself…… leave as is.

 

[Netherfield]

If it's out of an Angus cow then it's an Angus cross with a white face surely.

 

[Spartacus]

It won't matter, there's someone goes through my local mart selling Charollais cattle that are clearly Angus and vice versa very regularly.

 

[Agrivator]

If it's out of an Angus cow then it's an Angus cross with a white face surely.

Exactly. A calf out of an Angus x cow by a Holstien bull and single suckled, would be registered as a Holstein cross.

But it is far more of a Angus cross calf than a calf out of a Holstein cow by an Angus bull, weaned soon after birth and fattened on slats.

 

[M-J-G]

I don't see the problem unless it's being sold as having a named sire and the buyer could be classed as being mislead.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Whilst sorting cattle passports for market I've just noticed that I have put the breed of an animal (it is about 14-15m old) down as AAx when its clearly a Hereford cross out of an angus cow. Can it be amended or is it for the bin?

Only other option is to put it into the herd I suppose.

Leave it . The buyer buys what he sees in the ring , the abattoirs just read the tags , they haven't got home to decide what breed it is .
Think twice before you send a passport back for ammendments, we sent 2 back due to having the wrong sex by mistake, both ' got lost ' somewhere in BCMS towers and it cost us £40 for 2 replacements.

 

[Sleepeasy]

Don’t even bother changing the sex now. Just cross it out and write correct sex down if there is error. Changing breed wouldn’t even cross my mind

 

[Headless chicken]

Breed changing is a can of worms. Could end up with the animal being white papered. You’d have to prove parentage I think or at very least calving books and records. I’d make the amendment myself and let the mart know.

 

[Hesstondriver]

Breed changing is a can of worms. Could end up with the animal being white papered. You’d have to prove parentage I think or at very least calving books and records. I’d make the amendment myself and let the mart know.

Like you say If you change it it could arouse suspicion and then questions .
could it be proved by dna ?

 

[Headless chicken]

Like you say If you change it it could arouse suspicion and then questions .
could it be proved by dna ?

Yes if you still have the dam on the holding. If not you’re pretty stuffed

 

[L P]

Ether way it's AAX, it's not something to get hung up on... God forbid you run two differing bulls in the same season... how would you cope with your conscience? I'll challenge any mixed race gender fluid defra/bcms folk to argue against my choice on how I should identify my cows.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Just tell them your cattle can identify however they please these days