Cattle tagging rules?

[john432]

Long story, but simple question.. when a cow looses half of her ear tag , does it need to be replaced ? I sent lots of animals to the abattoir with just one side of a tag left , but they did have a tag in each ear.

 

[Fergieman]

After having a Rpa full tag inspection, if one flag of the tag is missing it needs replacing. Like you I have sold some with a rear flag missing and never had any comeback.

 

[Headless chicken]

Tag needs to have both sides. Those ones you sent must’ve lost it in transport which does unfortunately happen. Leaving your farm without 2 full tags IE 4 sides will get you into trouble.

 

[Archie]

Just to throw a spanner in the works I was told by mart staff when selling a cull cow that 3 out of 4 sides showing was enough.
Took one in like that and was going to get Carrs to make a print while you wait one up for up me but mart said not necessary.

 

[john432]

Ok, was helping a friend TB test his cattle yesterday.. woman from the assembly came out to check all the eartags, his records, had the attitude I'll catch you out and get your single farm payment deducted! Is it any wonder so many are giving up farming ..

 

[som farmer]

from memory, Trading Standards lost a case over a missing ear tag at abattoir, because they couldn't prove the animal hadn't lost the tag enroute to abattoir, therefore couldn't say it had left the farm, with only one. Common sense applied by legal beagles.

some TS staff are absolutely fine, others are obnoxious

 

[Hampton]

Just to throw a spanner in the works I was told by mart staff when selling a cull cow that 3 out of 4 sides showing was enough.
Took one in like that and was going to get Carrs to make a print while you wait one up for up me but mart said not necessary.

Mart staff will tell you anything

 

[HasthorpeGrange]

I got a letter from loacal council after selling a store with a printed tag that was green instead of two yellow

 

[som farmer]

I got a letter from loacal council after selling a store with a printed tag that was green instead of two yellow

does it specify anywhere that you have to have 2 yellow tags ?

 

[Jackov Altraids]

(2) The person responsible for identifying cattle by means of an ear tag applied to each ear in accordance with Article 4(1) of Regulation (EC) No. 1760/2000 is the keeper.

(2) In accordance with paragraphs 1 and 2 of Article 1 of Commission Regulation (EC) No. 911/2004, both ear tags must have the logo specified in paragraph 11 (in the case of a two-piece ear tag, both pieces must have it), the letters “UK” and the unique number allocated by the Secretary of State.


from;

The Cattle Identification Regulations 2007

www.legislation.gov.uk

I have never read that only having one half of a tag remaining was a problem as long as it had all the necessary information on it.

 

[Archie]

Mart staff will tell you anything

Yes, maybe they just couldn’t be arsed letting me run it through their crush to retag.
Anyway, they sold it and whoever bought it put it to slaughterhouse and never heard anymore of it.
Common sense would suggest 3 out of 4 should be ok. After all if secondary tag had been a metal rather than double plastic it would only have 3 readable identifiers

 

[Afarewyth]

Ok, was helping a friend TB test his cattle yesterday.. woman from the assembly came out to check all the eartags, his records, had the attitude I'll catch you out and get your single farm payment deducted! Is it any wonder so many are giving up farming ..

Aren’t the 2 things de-linked now? Ie all they can do is say “Naughty, naughty you should have tags in” and that’s the end of it?

 

[john432]

Aren’t the 2 things de-linked now? Ie all they can do is say “Naughty, naughty you should have tags in” and that’s the end of it?

This is Wales, where the SS/ Gestapo of the Assembly government is hell bent on persecuting an ethnic minority to extinction... Us Welsh livestock farmers...and they are rapidly reaching their goals... moral in farming has never been so low...

 

[som farmer]

This is Wales, where the SS/ Gestapo of the Assembly government is hell bent on persecuting an ethnic minority to extinction... Us Welsh livestock farmers...and they are rapidly reaching their goals... moral in farming has never been so low...

its the 'gestapo' attitude of civil servants, 'we know better than you', and the average civil servant has the tendency to gold plate any regulation, they can't help themselves.

not sure that applies to civil servants only, farmers seem quite capable of complicating a lot of the everyday jobs, we do.

l think the biggest balls up defra/rpa do, is fail to realise that farmers created the rural network of fields, hedges and woods, they are so desperate to keep. Re-wilding, planting trees etc, will only create a landscape that will look a bloody good mess. But, hey-ho, we can't be trusted to look after it, but sure as eggs are eggs, when they have fecked it up, it will be us farmers that get blamed. Which will be true, they paid us to do it. With a bit of luck, they will pay us to restore it back to producing food.

l cannot understand the mentality of our politicians/civil servants, that they cannot realise food production needs to happen, to feed them.

shock and horror, 'dangerous' chemicals are being found on imported fruits, and no doubt will be found on all types of food, that is imported at the lowest price possible, and by methods that are deemed 'unacceptable' here in the UK.

so their 'greening' carbon etc, reduction here in the UK, leads to greater production elsewhere, that policy is a load of ballcocks then.

 

[Gulli]

does it specify anywhere that you have to have 2 yellow tags ?

No only the primary tag has to be yellow, all our secondary tags are different colours for management

 

[Hampton]

does it specify anywhere that you have to have 2 yellow tags ?

No, it doesn’t, but if you have 2 yellows in then you effectively have 2 primaries

 

[buttercup]

For a few years now, have been a the small button tag in the left ear for males and the other way round for females calves. Is it very wrong. mart seams happy.