Combi baler for 120 hp

[Indrek]

Planning to buy a combibaler. Right now im between fusion 4 and krone comprima cf 155 xc and waiting a quote for Massey baler. Im worried that my tractors are lacking power to run fusion, but fusion is 4000 euro cheaper than krone. Currently i have mf 5465(120hp) and Mf 5713(130 hp). We dont have hills and we try to finish silage before the ground gets wet in the fall. What would you choose?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Planning to buy a combibaler. Right now im between fusion 4 and krone comprima cf 155 xc and waiting a quote for Massey baler. Im worried that my tractors are lacking power to run fusion, but fusion is 4000 euro cheaper than krone. Currently i have mf 5465(120hp) and Mf 5713(130 hp). We dont have hills and we try to finish silage before the ground gets wet in the fall. What would you choose?

How many bales you make a year

 

[Cmoran]

Your tractor will run a fusion no problem at all

 

[John Deere 8530]

Planning to buy a combibaler. Right now im between fusion 4 and krone comprima cf 155 xc and waiting a quote for Massey baler. Im worried that my tractors are lacking power to run fusion, but fusion is 4000 euro cheaper than krone. Currently i have mf 5465(120hp) and Mf 5713(130 hp). We dont have hills and we try to finish silage before the ground gets wet in the fall. What would you choose?

Both of those tractors should run those balers. Hills, soft ground and blunt knives are what sap all the power. I only have experience with the Massey out of those 3 options but they've just brought out a new model which has a different netting table. All 3 should be good balers, depends which dealer is best around you I'd say. Can you get a demo off them all?

 

[Indrek]

Both of those tractors should run those balers. Hills, soft ground and blunt knives are what sap all the power. I only have experience with the Massey out of those 3 options but they've just brought out a new model which has a different netting table. All 3 should be good balers, depends which dealer is best around you I'd say. Can you get a demo off them all?

Is massey ferguson baler good and realiable? Half a year ago they asked 112k for massey combibaler but dealer promised to try to get abetter price. Krone is 99k and mchale 95K. All are low spec.

 

[Indrek]

How many bales you make a year

About 1200 silage and 500-1500 hay. But planing to expand when milk prices rise

 

[daveydiesel1]

About 1200 silage and 500-1500 hay. But planing to expand when milk prices rise

Would a kuhn bio not be alot cheaper for that number of bales

 

[BRB John]

Fusion all day long.
I guess it's the additional weight that would put the most strain on your tractor as surely the wrapper isn't going to take much work.
If you don't have hills then you'll get away with alot less ponies.

 

[Wellytrack]

If you don’t have hills and it’s dry will make the biggest difference. When it’s wet and steep you will need weight to pull weight.

 

[John Deere 8530]

Is massey ferguson baler good and realiable? Half a year ago they asked 112k for massey combibaler but dealer promised to try to get abetter price. Krone is 99k and mchale 95K. All are low spec.

Seem to be. They bought Lely/welger and have updated them since. 2 years ago one without a rapper brand new with knives was 35k. At the same time one with a wrapper was 65k if I remember correctly. In my opinion the McHale have copied a lot of the welger design.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Class baler with the density cranked up would take all of the 120hp so don't look at one of theirs. Kuhn tandem axle combi might be easier to manage and does a good bale

 

[James]

About 1200 silage and 500-1500 hay. But planing to expand when milk prices rise

For what you're looking to do any of them will do it. Personally my choice would be a one or 2 season old fusion 3+ bought off a mchale dealer. It'll be sorted if there was any issues new and will have been through the workshop and should be sold with some warranty. HP wise you'll be ok not set any speed records on hills but as doing your own I wouldn't worry. My first fusion was on a 140hp claas now on a massey 7719S. Have a 5713S that I could put fusion on if I had to and so long as ground was dry and not too steep I don't think I'd be too worried.

 

[Farmeraduk]

Jd 130m here with 2020 fusion 3 plus. Some hills, 2000 bales of silage a year for myself. Superb not to have to go back out wrapping all night! Power beyond essential.

 

[Indrek]

Right now got a good quote on case RB 545 SILAGE PACK. Does somebody have experience with case?

 

[Horn&corn]

Go with the fusion. Parts and resale value would be good enough reason for me

 

[Durt Burd]

@Indrek I used the New Holland version of the combi a couple of years ago and had it on a Case Maxxum 125, a six-cylinder tractor that boosts to around 165hp and it handled it fine. Couple of annoyances with things on the baler such as the latches for holding the film are not spring loaded by use an over centre latch etc. The report is in the 4/2022 issue of profi

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[dave7840]

Planning on pulling today's purchase with 125hp, I hope. Handled wrapper towed behind baler fine, although combi is a fare bit heavier. Worked out old setup cost £0.55 per bale & wrap over 12 seasons/28500 bales, think this will cost more.

 

[Limcrazy]

Nice baler.
Those figures on depreciation not cost to change?

 

[dave7840]

Depreciation and parts, most of which were pickup tines

Worked out cost to change is £1.82. 55p sounds better

 

[michael N123]

About 1200 silage and 500-1500 hay. But planing to expand when milk prices rise

Just get a baler and a wrapper for that