Concreting a lane

[Simon Chiles]

Has anyone got experience concreting a shared lane with three/four houses and a couple of farm yards on it? There's no other handy access other than across field from another lane here. Are there any novell solutions to reduce curing time? Three weeks for heavy farm machinery, a week for car traffic?

You can get concrete mixes that go off in 24hrs. Network Rail needed to repair the track next to one of my yards and needed to use the yard whilst doing so. One of the things the sub contractors wanted to do was concrete the entrance. I initially objected because I didn’t want to be left with a load of smashed up concrete when they finished. They guaranteed that they wouldn’t and that they could make it set inside 24hrs. They laid the concrete on a Saturday morning and by Monday they were driving over it with eight wheelers and low loaders with excavator’s on. They’ve had about 3000 tonnes of stone in, and most back out again, excavator’s, piling machines, offices, generators and cars ( I should think on some days there were 50 people on site ) over it day and night for the best part of a year and the concrete hasn’t cracked. I’d love to know the specification of it as it struck me as being very useful, all I know is that it contains fibres and was also reinforced.

 

[milkloss]

You can get concrete mixes that go off in 24hrs. Network Rail needed to repair the track next to one of my yards and needed to use the yard whilst doing so. One of the things the sub contractors wanted to do was concrete the entrance. I initially objected because I didn’t want to be left with a load of smashed up concrete when they finished. They guaranteed that they wouldn’t and that they could make it set inside 24hrs. They laid the concrete on a Saturday morning and by Monday they were driving over it with eight wheelers and low loaders with excavator’s on. They’ve had about 3000 tonnes of stone in, and most back out again, excavator’s, piling machines, offices, generators and cars ( I should think on some days there were 50 people on site ) over it day and night for the best part of a year and the concrete hasn’t cracked. I’d love to know the specification of it as it struck me as being very useful, all I know is that it contains fibres and was also reinforced.

The 20kg bags of quickset are very expensive compared to standard dust. You’d need to be a bunch like network rail to be able to afford much of it.

 

[rob1]

The 20kg bags of quickset are very expensive compared to standard dust. You’d need to be a bunch like network rail to be able to afford much of it.

It should be cheaper as its the added gypsum that slows setting time iirc

 

[Yale]

Concrete sleepers?

 

[Yatesbros1]

We concreted the farm drive,8 loads of ready mix,first load as soon as milk tanker went down the drive.Tanker drove on it 48 hrs later,that was 5 years ago and no cracking issues.Mix was c35 plus fibres.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Has anyone got experience concreting a shared lane with three/four houses and a couple of farm yards on it? There's no other handy access other than across field from another lane here. Are there any novell solutions to reduce curing time? Three weeks for heavy farm machinery, a week for car traffic?

Concrete it in the summer use the field as a temporary
Track hope for a dry summer

 

[Boohoo]

Concrete it in the summer use the field as a temporary
Track hope for a dry summer

Don't think he'll be able to wait 20 years! 2018 was the first dry summer here since 1995, the dry summer before that was 1976!

 

[BBC]

Tarmacced our lane four years ago as fed up with forever filling potholes and best thing ever did.

Lane serves four other properties so sat down round a table with a bottle of wine and sorted out sharing cost based on distance down lane.

We did all the prep work, widened, filled and levelled lane and put kerbing in for field and house entrances.

Tarmac laid with paver and was min 7cm thick, 3.5m wide and total distance 500m, needed 18 lorry loads. Is still as good as new.

Only problem was some of the local dog walking brigade. Part of lane is a footpath and got permission to close it for day. Tested patience having to explain to a few why it would not be a good idea, despite their insisting it was their right to use the footpath, that it would not be a good idea for them to walk their dear little pooches down freshly laid tarmac that was still scalding hot.

 

[yohan115]

You could get the local planner man to scarify the entire lane to the same surface say 20-30mm deep surfacing contractor to spray bond coat the lay 40mm of SMA/ asphalt job done drive on it next day. Any tarmac will not sit, will move in hot weather to soft.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Don't think he'll be able to wait 20 years! 2018 was the first dry summer here since 1995, the dry summer before that was 1976!

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Yep of course.
last summer was a good one for doing stiff anyway.....here for a few months you could drive everywhere with anything quite useful for a change,well in that respect.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Tarmacced our lane four years ago as fed up with forever filling potholes and best thing ever did.

Lane serves four other properties so sat down round a table with a bottle of wine and sorted out sharing cost based on distance down lane.

We did all the prep work, widened, filled and levelled lane and put kerbing in for field and house entrances.

Tarmac laid with paver and was min 7cm thick, 3.5m wide and total distance 500m, needed 18 lorry loads. Is still as good as new.

Only problem was some of the local dog walking brigade. Part of lane is a footpath and got permission to close it for day. Tested patience having to explain to a few why it would not be a good idea, despite their insisting it was their right to use the footpath, that it would not be a good idea for them to walk their dear little pooches down freshly laid tarmac that was still scalding hot.

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what nice photos they are.

 

[How much]

i would tar it for ease they can put camber or crown on it with the paver to get over your standing water and some gullies down the side to pick up and take away the water , you could make localised repairs to the old concrete if need be , the contactor would probably need to saw it and put in some expansion joints with a stihl saw and bitumen as the concrete and tar will expand at at different rates but it would be much quicker to do and faster to use

 

[beef 1]

 

[Derky]

We have done some concrete laying of rapid cure. 48 hours and lorries were over it. Its a ceka additive works out at circa £140 a cube. Its a witch to lay and you need a big team as its going off as it falls off the chute.

 

[holywell farmer]

You can get concrete mixes that go off in 24hrs. Network Rail needed to repair the track next to one of my yards and needed to use the yard whilst doing so. One of the things the sub contractors wanted to do was concrete the entrance. I initially objected because I didn’t want to be left with a load of smashed up concrete when they finished. They guaranteed that they wouldn’t and that they could make it set inside 24hrs. They laid the concrete on a Saturday morning and by Monday they were driving over it with eight wheelers and low loaders with excavator’s on. They’ve had about 3000 tonnes of stone in, and most back out again, excavator’s, piling machines, offices, generators and cars ( I should think on some days there were 50 people on site ) over it day and night for the best part of a year and the concrete hasn’t cracked. I’d love to know the specification of it as it struck me as being very useful, all I know is that it contains fibres and was also reinforced.

Be aware if get mix on site concrete it goes off very quickly !

 

[Frodo2]

Tarmacced our lane four years ago as fed up with forever filling potholes and best thing ever did.

Lane serves four other properties so sat down round a table with a bottle of wine and sorted out sharing cost based on distance down lane.

We did all the prep work, widened, filled and levelled lane and put kerbing in for field and house entrances.

Tarmac laid with paver and was min 7cm thick, 3.5m wide and total distance 500m, needed 18 lorry loads. Is still as good as new.

Only problem was some of the local dog walking brigade. Part of lane is a footpath and got permission to close it for day. Tested patience having to explain to a few why it would not be a good idea, despite their insisting it was their right to use the footpath, that it would not be a good idea for them to walk their dear little pooches down freshly laid tarmac that was still scalding hot.

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Can I ask what the cost was.

 

[BBC]

Can I ask what the cost was.

Tarmac came in at £16 per m2 + VAT after a bit of haggling. One of the reasons for doing it when we did was that price had dropped from the previous quote of around £20/m2 due to the cost/barrel of oil being at a low.

Overall cost came in at about £36,000 incl VAT including hire of excavator, vibrating roller and kerbing for gates/cement/hardcore etc.

As said, we did all the prep work, levelling, widening, compacting and putting in the kerb stones.