Confessions of the Sheep/Beef Cattle/Pig Addicts

S J H

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Livestock Farmer
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Bedfordshire
There’s maternal and then there’s maternal. I called one for a mate of mine and I pulled calf out. As soon as calf was out cow jumped straight up and spun round and started to chase me I ran for my life jumped over a wall cow smashed wall down and carried on for me luckily there was a water tanker I hid behind. Didn’t even have time to get ropes off. He said that was pretty normal. Fuuuck that
I deleted mine because the over post said what I had, but i wouldn’t judge a cow til after a couple of days of calving. That one sounds a bit extreme though. Had a 2nd calver at my dads the other night and I put the loadall in the corner so I could tube it, she’s fine now. No way I’m sending her for that.

I’ve had old cows that have always been fine, then been funny when they’re older. We’re dealing with women wtf do you expect 😂
 
Part of the problem is not having the right handling facilities, a calving gate and head lock and that can’t happen. The point is any cow can flip at calving at any time and you should plan accordingly.
Calving outside small tug and then that happens no thanks. I honestly couldn’t believe it. You carry on with your metal and your ‘good cows’
 

Rich_ard

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If your employing or using outside help who can't know which cows are unpredictable then I'd agree to get rid of them. If you know all your cows then keep as you see fit but there are always accidents. Even if not fatal can be serious.
 
Years ago we were at a farm sale of a well known farmer/ dealer he had some cattle that were a bit touchy as the sale went on some showed themselves up in the ring we bought a few one of my mates stood next to me bought the same types that ones that were flighty a few the auctioneer put down to us one of them jumped out the ring and ran off. We ended up with 8 outfits they were left on the farm because some had jumped out this was in October I said I would come and pick them up when they got them in it was snowing in December before the lads could get them in for us to pick up they quietened down after a while
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
I used to have wild cows and it's a bloody wonder how I'm still alive thinking back 🤔 I wouldn't go back to those types but I know how to handle them. Different breed now that helped.
They got a lot calmer when I came home full time and they knew me and i wss the only one working with them. They don't like dad for some reason 🤷 cows seem to like some people more than others and I can't explain why.
 

Top Tip.

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Location
highland
We used to do that back in the day.same with bulls too!
I mind a cow that my brother bought for me years ago a couple of months later she calved and I told him the next time I was speaking to him. He says oh I forgot to tell you the boy said to watch her at the calving. 🤦‍♂️She had calved in the field and I had to go in and pull the skin of the nose and she never even looked at me.
 

AngusLad

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
There is a number of my cows that can be fairly snotty at calving time which I don't mind - if I want very maternal, motherly cows I think you have to accept that they are going to be protective of their calves. Just the same as a good blackie ewe will stand and fight the dog at lambing time. There are no cows that I wouldn't feel comfortable getting hold of the calf either in the shed or the field by myself though, and any cows that cross that threshold don't see the bull again.
Like all these things it all depends on your circumstances and what you're comfortable with. I do all the calving by myself so don't want the hassle of nut cases running around

Edit: I should say that I do usually get some nut cases of heifers that will try and murder me each year. But over the number of cows to calf it's a very small percentage
 

Gulli

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I used to have wild cows and it's a bloody wonder how I'm still alive thinking back 🤔 I wouldn't go back to those types but I know how to handle them. Different breed now that helped.
They got a lot calmer when I came home full time and they knew me and i wss the only one working with them. They don't like dad for some reason 🤷 cows seem to like some people more than others and I can't explain why.
It's very much dependent on how you are around them. Cows react much better to calm people than stressed
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
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An unexpectedly nasty 2nd calver.
Is she that bad ? a nasty one would be trying to get to you and the calf in the feeder.

I have only ever sent on one cow for being nasty and she put a cattle hurdle over the top of me, angus cross sim
sent on one for being nasty to her calf that was a Hford cross BF
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
Is she that bad ? a nasty one would be trying to get to you and the calf in the feeder.

I have only ever sent on one cow for being nasty and she put a cattle hurdle over the top of me, angus cross sim
sent on one for being nasty to her calf that was a Hford cross BF
A really nasty one would smash a ring feeder to scrap and have a go at the loader denting all its nice shiny panels.
I lost a calf once from scouring in a 6 bay shed with gates to split it into 3 sections. Couldn't get near the calf and couldn't get in and out fast enough to close a gate on her and when I did she jumped over. I tried and tried for days to get that calf no chance. I'd have been safer going in the tiger cage at the zoo. It was like she got worse because she knew har calf was ill and dying and panicking over it and blaming me.
Welsh black blood was strong in that one.
Her sister broke her calfs leg pawing the ground as well. I only walked in the door and would have been 30 yards away when she started going mad. I had to climb along the beam of a shed to lasso the calf and drag it out through the barrier.
 

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