Cricketer

[buffalo_soldier]

Could they sell the "brand" Cricketer to another processor?
It might be helpful to their supplying farmers.

 

[Sid]

Could they sell the "brand" Cricketer to another processor?
It might be helpful to their supplying farmers.

A major retailer didn't want "cricketer" hence the reason for closing.

80% of catherdral city is sold "on offer" . A tatic used by the majority of retailers.

 

[dinderleat]

A major retailer didn't want "cricketer" hence the reason for closing.

80% of catherdral city is sold "on offer" . A tatic used by the majority of retailers.

If it's a brand then the processor is the one making the decision wether to put it on offer or not. Makes sense because it will make a fair bit more than bog standard cheese/commodity prices

 

[dinderleat]

Why these small processors want their own pool is beyond me. Surely it's easy just to ring up Arla everyday and say I want this much today?

Because it has been normally cheaper to buy direct than on the spot and it secures the milk for the factory. And easier to budget/tender for supply contracts

 

[cattow]

Why these small processors want their own pool is beyond me. Surely it's easy just to ring up Arla everyday and say I want this much today?

This is what the smaller Stilton cheese producers do, they buy off Firstmilk.
The two bigger ones are buying off fm at the moment as well to make extra cheese for the Christmas market.

 

[Moors Farmer]

Cathedral City is usually on offer at around the £5.00/kilo mark.

Global market price is £1.80/kilo.

 

[Fiacre]

Cathedral City is usually on offer at around the £5.00/kilo mark.

Global market price is £1.80/kilo.

Although I think you mean the £5/kg is the retail price and £1.80 is the wholesale commodity price. There will always be a large difference between the two. A top quality branded cheese can retail for £11 to £12/kg.

 

[Moors Farmer]

Although I think you mean the £5/kg is the retail price and £1.80 is the wholesale commodity price. There will always be a large difference between the two. A top quality branded cheese can retail for £11 to £12/kg.

It may well do. But cheddar is cheddar, and your difference of £6 or £7 per kilo is rather large for a similar product. £5 is a price that will sell large volumes with a reasonable return to the supplying farmers - hence the Davidstow contract price. £11 to £12 will have a tiny volume of sale in comparison.

 

[jerseycowsman]

This is what the smaller Stilton cheese producers do, they buy off Firstmilk.
The two bigger ones are buying off fm at the moment as well to make extra cheese for the Christmas market.

That's exactly what roddas do down here. They have a contract with Arla. I would have thought that much easier, knowing exactly what you are getting everyday.

 

[jerseycowsman]

It may well do. But cheddar is cheddar, and your difference of £6 or £7 per kilo is rather large for a similar product. £5 is a price that will sell large volumes with a reasonable return to the supplying farmers - hence the Davidstow contract price. £11 to £12 will have a tiny volume of sale in comparison.

The david stow cheese price can't be that good, or else why are they only 2ppl above Arla at the moment?

 

[More to life]

The david stow cheese price can't be that good, or else why are they only 2ppl above Arla at the moment?

Only 2ppl that's 10% and don't forget they offer a formula price to which is higher still and very popular most have a percentage on that

 

[Moors Farmer]

JCM - do you not think 2ppl is a significant difference? Surely it shows it's big selling product that almost generates a sustainable milk price?

 

[jerseycowsman]

Only 2ppl that's 10% and don't forget they offer a formula price to which is higher still and very popular most have a percentage on that

Well, the top david stow price was about 3ppl off the top Arla price about 18 months ago

 

[jerseycowsman]

JCM - do you not think 2ppl is a significant difference? Surely it shows it's big selling product that almost generates a sustainable milk price?

If it's such a good selling product why does the price you are paid for it have to fluctuate at all? Shouldn't it be the top price all the time? Oh, looks like dairy rest are just ripping you off!

 

[Moors Farmer]

The price of any cheese doesn't affect me at all. I worked out long ago the global market place was to be avoided if possible. I can't compete with the other players. I'm only interested in the domestic market.

 

[Dragon]

The price of any cheese doesn't affect me at all. I worked out long ago the global market place was to be avoided if possible. I can't compete with the other players. I'm only interested in the domestic market.

The price davidstow suppliers receive for milk does not represent the value of the cheese it produces. DC will be aiming to pay a competitive price to the supplier , representative to other buyers, 18 months ago they could not compete, but if take 12 month avg they are on par with other suppliers. against a three year avg the could well be 1-3ppl above

 

[Fiacre]

JCM - do you not think 2ppl is a significant difference? Surely it shows it's big selling product that almost generates a sustainable milk price?

Don't forget that DC obtained significant EU rural development grants to fund their investment in the Davidstow plant not available to any other processor east of the Tamar. On that basis they should be able to pay a better price.

 

[happycows]

Don't forget that DC obtained significant EU rural development grants to fund their investment in the Davidstow plant not available to any other processor east of the Tamar. On that basis they should be able to pay a better price.

Infact it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't a clause in the agreement that they got their £45 million. Most of these EU grants need to show a marked improvement in returns to get it.