Farmers earn more from YouTube than their crops

quattro

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scotland
No most farmers know how to dig out a ditch, unblock a culvert or drain and have someone come in and put a drainage system in a paddock.
Very simple stuff, it is after all unskilled labour with a shovel and a set of rods (plus a digger nowadays) that does it.
Figuring out how to have large amounts of rainfall exit quickly to sea in a small expanding country with 70 million people, within the law while respecting people’s rights and working around old infrastructure AND remembering that water needs stored so people don’t go thirsty and crops don’t fail in a drought ( the bit no one talks about) is beyond me and I suspect you.
Have a think about the whole problem from new builds to existing infrastructure and landowners rights, laws, available funds, climate change and rising sea levels.
You might strike a few snags
So do you think it’s ok to just leave the rivers and carry on
if the gutters on your house overflow do you just leave them
as regards figuring out how to deal with large amounts of rainfall to exit to the sea quickly , that’s their job there supposed to professionals
but no they take the money and do nothing (prime example of the generator within view of their depot being flooded )
as I’ve said my fil worked at rivers authority for 43 years , yes there were sometimes flooding
he said when he retired 27years ago if keep building like they (back then) they will have to something to the rivers ie widen increase flow to the sea
since ea took over I don’t think they’ve done anything to rivers/banks
well maybe damage banks by encouraging badgers
 
And of course, there were never floods back then were there.

Yes but until that end is sorted a farmer speeding water off their land is only adding to the problem down stream.
Very basic stuff but no one cares, "get it off my land it's an outrage" While houses downstream are destroyed.

I suspect the EA people know exactly what the problem is and what needs to be done, but they don't have the power, money or resources to fix it.
I'd also guess that a flooded farmers field is low on their priority list.
He may be paid to be there, but being there getting whined out probably wasn't a good use of his time.

They may of course be incompetent and need firing, you then have to replace them and the replacements will face the same problems. Who's going to do it? Wardy?

Farmers claim they can easily fix it, I suspect they'd have a shock if they took on the role.

Just my opinion.
Just to add a few facts, not opinion to this debate, when the NRA did regular dredging there wasn't the amount of flooding that we now see it anywhere near it.
Estuaries were also regularly dredged.

As far as farmers "taking on the role" a large amount do just that as part of the Internal Drainage Boards that they run.
These tend to work very well until the water reaches the rivers that are now neglected and clogged.
The way it worked was that channels and tributaries kept maintained and open tend to clean themselves far more efficiently and tend to take less large scale targeted work and cost as a well maintained system rather than a neglected one.

The EA is now just in place to justify how they can save their funding to allow successive governments to do nothing and use the money elsewhere.
They take their data from whatever muppet or tame body agrees with their agenda rather than from historic evidence and Mother Nature herself.

*This is from someone that has acted as a drainage contractor in both East Anglia and Lincs/Humber Estuary.
 
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I just don't get the opposition toward dredging and other works. I really do not.

It's a rolling programme of works that work on specific sections of a watercourse at any one time and then they move on. You can't dredge or drain or cut ditches out along every watercourse in the same year. In this way, it's impact on wildlife and ecology is balanced and minimised.

I'd like to see a long term study investigating this because I'd be willing to bet rivers were in better nick under the NRA's tenure than at any point during the EA being a thing.
 

Levelsman

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I just don't get the opposition toward dredging and other works. I really do not.

It's a rolling programme of works that work on specific sections of a watercourse at any one time and then they move on. You can't dredge or drain or cut ditches out along every watercourse in the same year. In this way, it's impact on wildlife and ecology is balanced and minimised.

I'd like to see a long term study investigating this because I'd be willing to bet rivers were in better nick under the NRA's tenure than at any point during the EA being a thing.


EA and IDBs shyte scared and hide behind Environment Act which now seems to trump Land Drainage Acts.
 

quattro

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Location
scotland
I just don't get the opposition toward dredging and other works. I really do not.

It's a rolling programme of works that work on specific sections of a watercourse at any one time and then they move on. You can't dredge or drain or cut ditches out along every watercourse in the same year. In this way, it's impact on wildlife and ecology is balanced and minimised.

I'd like to see a long term study investigating this because I'd be willing to bet rivers were in better nick under the NRA's tenure than at any point during the EA being a thing.
I don’t see how they can use wildlife and ecology as a excuse for doing drainage
when flooding 1000s of acres x feet kills everything
 
He's gonna be really busy servicing 5 machines!! Says its £80 for engine oil filter for john deere!! They must see him coming, doesn't have a clue
He’s great to watch, always cheers me up watching him make a complete twit of himself. :ROFLMAO:
liked his rant about how expensive the new 6R150 is, and it’s a waste of money, too greedy on fuel, can’t understand the need for the power in a four cylinder and thinks no farmer will buy one - In other words Daddy said he’s not getting it and now he’s convincing himself it’s rubbish.
f**k knows why he wants a 3rd tractor, the two he has don’t do anything as it is.
 
He’s great to watch, always cheers me up watching him make a complete twit of himself. :ROFLMAO:
liked his rant about how expensive the new 6R150 is, and it’s a waste of money, too greedy on fuel, can’t understand the need for the power in a four cylinder and thinks no farmer will buy one - In other words Daddy said he’s not getting it and now he’s convincing himself it’s rubbish.
f**k knows why he wants a 3rd tractor, the two he has don’t do anything as it is.

How in the heck can someone so categorically state that a tractor is too greedy on fuel and there is no need for high power in a 4 cylinder machine? Other manufacturers have made 150hp plus machines in a compact format for years.
 

mtx.jag

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pembs
How in the heck can someone so categorically state that a tractor is too greedy on fuel and there is no need for high power in a 4 cylinder machine? Other manufacturers have made 150hp plus machines in a compact format for years.
Yes but this is the guy that knows the export market
“50 series Deeres had such simple hydraulics “
He has obviously never had the cab off one and been in its guts 🤣🤣
 

aangus

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Location
cumbria
He’s great to watch, always cheers me up watching him make a complete twit of himself. :ROFLMAO:
liked his rant about how expensive the new 6R150 is, and it’s a waste of money, too greedy on fuel, can’t understand the need for the power in a four cylinder and thinks no farmer will buy one - In other words Daddy said he’s not getting it and now he’s convincing himself it’s rubbish.
f**k knows why he wants a 3rd tractor, the two he has don’t do anything as it is.
why is he changing the hedge cutter?
 

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