FUNKY FARMER MORE RUBBISH FLYTIPPED ON HIS LAND?

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer

Are the offences of littering and jaywalking commonly policed (in Singapore)? If yes, what is the punishment?

Littering and Jaywalking are one of Singapore’s most common offences committed. However, we don’t often see the Police arresting people for such offences Littering is commonly policed. In 2012, 7,800 litterbugs were caught.

First-time offenders who discard minor litter such as sweet wrappers, cigarette butts and parking coupon tabs improperly are liable for a $300 fine. First-time littering offenders who throw larger items such as plastic bags, food wrappers and drink cups would be issued a fine which can go up to $ 1,000 or a Community Work Order (CWO) of up to 12 hours, or both.

To make things worse, offenders are required to wear a bright orange jersey, identifying themselves as the litterbugs while cleaning up the areas. This brings shame to them and hopes to ensure they would not repeat their acts again. The fine for repeat offenders may go up to $5,000.
 

Vader

Member
Mixed Farmer
If you find an address in rubbish it means nothing. It could have been planted to frame some one.
Basically it has to be on camera or sworn witness seeing them tip it.
Had a case where tipper lorry was 20m from pile of rubbish he obviously just tipped down private lane.
Tipper was still raised.
As no one actually saw them dump it. No case.
This is the problem. Dodgy lawyers have found every loop hole to avoid prosecution, do mow its next to impossible to prosecute.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
What are the rules on building waste? If you do some work in your house do you need a skip or can you load it in a trailer and take it to the dump and pay on weight?
 
Its very sad but the fella needs to move out of Ye olden days and secure his property better. Shouldn't have too and it doesn't guarantee they'll leave you alone but there's usually an easier target down the road.
In this case he was the easy target.

The arseholes took the gate off its hinges (it says in the video)
 

tepapa

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Wales
There's a quiet back lane I'm traveling on near me where,last week, someone has tipped old roofing sheets in 3 separate gateways. I'd guess these are asbestos sheets, so that's 3 different owners exposed to asbestos because it was cheaper then disposing them legally.
 

TheTallGuy

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
What are the rules on building waste? If you do some work in your house do you need a skip or can you load it in a trailer and take it to the dump and pay on weight?
Depends on the local authority, for Cambridgeshire you can take it to a recycling centre for free if it is a small scale project. Larger scale projects & you need to get either a waste firm to take it away or a skip.
 

bluebell

Member
unless it pays to be lawabiding, honest? things will get worse? planning look at that? do the right thing go thrue the right channels with all the hoops you have to jump through, the cost of paying for all the consultants, time it takes etc etc? or keep quite do it anyway then if found out you get it anyway? this is a fact, i could quote a few examples just round here, one is my cousan has converted a small barn for his daughter to live in, no permisson, planning rules regs nothing?
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
unless it pays to be lawabiding, honest? things will get worse? planning look at that? do the right thing go thrue the right channels with all the hoops you have to jump through, the cost of paying for all the consultants, time it takes etc etc? or keep quite do it anyway then if found out you get it anyway? this is a fact, i could quote a few examples just round here, one is my cousan has converted a small barn for his daughter to live in, no permisson, planning rules regs nothing?

Exactly my experience. The law applies equally to all, just more equally to some than to others. "Evil flourishes where good men do nothing".

I have supplied photographs of planning infringements, also word for word quotes from the planning permission, and now the planners say they can't act because of covid. This is following a major breach by planning officials who failed to check the law and failed to notice major flaws in the application. I think the technical word for it is 'fraud' but I'd probably get sued for saying so, so I won't! Of course, once the building is up, it's extremely unlikely that it will be taken down, and if things can be left on 'hold' for long enough, it will be forgotten about -- and repeated.

I see no difference to fly tipping by the roadside to rubbish deposited on private land (but in public view) by the landowner.
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
I think Richard says it all:

Often the perpetrators are quite easy to find but the police for reasons decided by politicians have no interest in becoming involved, this type of thing should become more of a priority with sentences more appropriate when convictions are achieved.
A few 2 year prison sentences would soon act as a deterrent, again it is politicians that make the rules the police act on & that is where the blame really lies!
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
I don't know about your recycling centre but mine definately is NOT free.

If you read what is taken in then most of the waste you see in the video would not be allowed. Specifically building waste.

I have never understood why building waste isn't taking in as wood can be burnt and there is always a market for clean hardcore. Plaster should be able to be recycled for minerals.
and your not allowed in with anything bigger than a car no vans no trailers had this with an old 3 piece I needed to get rid of back of a Landrover sorry mate that's commercial you can't tip here strokers
 

Inky

Member
Location
Essex / G.London
If you find an address in rubbish it means nothing. It could have been planted to frame some one.
Basically it has to be on camera or sworn witness seeing them tip it.
Had a case where tipper lorry was 20m from pile of rubbish he obviously just tipped down private lane.
Tipper was still raised.
As no one actually saw them dump it. No case.
This is the problem. Dodgy lawyers have found every loop hole to avoid prosecution, do mow its next to impossible to prosecute.

We just prosecuted someone and they were fined £1k and given a criminal record, the person had dumped 16 black bin liners of rubbish on our land at night and the only evidence we had to go on was an invoice in the rubbish. It's the responsibility of the person who's rubbish it is to ensure it's disposed of by a licensed carrier.

We're in a very urban area and get on average a fly tip every day on our land and spend £250k clearing them up so have dedicated staff taking civil prosecutions against any that we can track down. It can be done but it is very time consuming.
 

manhill

Member
Analiyse the type of stuff that is being dumped and put a recycle /dump tax on the purchase price to cover Council costs. If you want to change your perfectly good kitchen then you can afford to pay for its disposal.
 

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
It gets my blood pressure up every time I see a high sided, white Transit tipper with a load of mixed waste and 3 blokes in drive past because I know it's not going to the tip or landfill.
Needs to be a government app for booking loads of waste from homes and businesses. Each load is booked into the disposal site and confirmed when received? Big awareness drive and police stop checks to confirm load of waste is registered on app.
 

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