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Goweresque

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My theory is since Halleys comet in 97 the weather has been appalling give or take a week or 2, certainly last summer was better but we paid for it in autumn /winter

A slightly more obvious reason for a sudden shift in the UK's climate around the late 90s is that the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) switched from its cold phase to its warm phase at exactly that time:

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/640px-atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation.png

You can see from that graph that it was almost entirely cold from about 1960 to about 1996/7 when it switched violently to warm. Since then we have a series of excessively wet seasons, often summers. I don't think its a coincidence. The warm phases seem to last from 10-20 years, so I would expect the current style of weather to continue more often than not until c.2020, when one could perhaps expect a cold phase to begin again, or at least to have more neutral values.
 

RushesToo

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Fingringhoe
A slightly more obvious reason for a sudden shift in the UK's climate around the late 90s is that the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) switched from its cold phase to its warm phase at exactly that time:

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/640px-atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation.png

You can see from that graph that it was almost entirely cold from about 1960 to about 1996/7 when it switched violently to warm. Since then we have a series of excessively wet seasons, often summers. I don't think its a coincidence. The warm phases seem to last from 10-20 years, so I would expect the current style of weather to continue more often than not until c.2020, when one could perhaps expect a cold phase to begin again, or at least to have more neutral values.

Don't forget the Maunder minimum -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum
This caused the little ice age [loads died as the weather failed]

Loads of things cause the climate to change, the oceans move slowly, as do any effects of CO2 - a period on no sun spots, they each cause oscillations, and their interaction is not simple. There are loads of people [often younger] and with better brains than you an I working on this, and their prediction timescales range from months to centuries. Our fathers were also good, but the value is in the synthesis of all the data sources. To check maths this needs to be done as best can be by mapping readings to observations in previous times and checking predications.

Personally I call it magic until someone comes up with a better explanation.
 

7610 super q

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Piece of pish this weather forecasting ........ for more info call me 09014563256 calls cost loads and I probably won't answer but you'll still be charged :LOL:

17th february I started this thread ......... who's the daddy :cool:
But it's drizzling.....................
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
I don't know what all the fuss is about. We've all had such a belly full of cold and damp summers we've forgotten what they should actually be like. High 20s and low 30s is hardly out of the ordinary, looking back. I remember in the summer of 1990, I went to Cheltenham cricket festival, it was so hot you just dripped sweat sat still. A few days later Cheltenham set a (then) record temperature for the UK of 37.1C.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/interesting/aug1990
 

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