Inovis

[liammogs]

Anyone that buy tups or interested in what they do this weeks 'ffermio' was worth a watch!

http://www.s4c.cymru/clic/e_level2.shtml?programme_id=540951206

There should be subtitles somwere! But do i detect a few lies.....'we dont feed no cake at all'.....later on in the polaris im sure i see a conrol box for a snacker!!

 

[neilo]

Anyone that buy tups or interested in what they do this weeks 'ffermio' was worth a watch!

http://www.s4c.cymru/clic/e_level2.shtml?programme_id=540951206

There should be subtitles somwere! But do i detect a few lies.....'we dont feed no cake at all'.....later on in the polaris im sure i see a conrol box for a snacker!!

They do run a Logic weed wiper. Could it have been a control box for that, which looks quite similar? (Notice how I'm feeling charitable)

They never used to feed concentrates, other than 'just a little bit to get minerals into the rams'. I understand that stopped when they started bolusing though.

Given the grassland management (assuming they practice what they preach), the use of swedes for wintering, and sending all the Rams away to 'grower units' on the south coast, why would they need to feed concentrates?

 

[Smudge]

 

[liammogs]

They do run a Logic weed wiper. Could it have been a control box for that, which looks quite similar? (Notice how I'm feeling charitable)

They never used to feed concentrates, other than 'just a little bit to get minerals into the rams'. I understand that stopped when they started bolusing though.

Given the grassland management (assuming they practice what they preach), the use of swedes for wintering, and sending all the Rams away to 'grower units' on the south coast, why would they need to feed concentrates?

It might be im just nit picking haha but just thought it would be interesting viewing! But on the grassland note, there rams are ment to perform on grassland alone no input at all etc but where do you draw the line there grassland management (based on the information given on that program) would be top quality leys, which would be rocket fuel compared to some of the grassland the majority buyers /users would be grazing? So are they doing the same with top notch leys as what mr pedigree cake stuffer is doing?

 

[ford4000]

I have 2 aberfield rams....after arriving home ,both ran across the field when I poured nuts into a trough for some calves!
No complaints about their offspring fattening or them holding condition though, so I don't mind at all.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Keeping condition on the rams (Aberdales) is something we struggle with and they do not have great longevity.
However the progeny are excellent so I suppose you can't have everything.

I have always presumed it is the genetic make up of the rams that causes them to go downhill on all grass.

 

[Top Tip.]

Keeping condition on the rams (Aberdales) is something we struggle with and they do not have great longevity.
However the progeny are excellent so I suppose you can't have everything.

I have always presumed it is the genetic make up of the rams that causes them to go downhill on all grass.

I have found over the years and with various breeds that those rams bought of good farms that have maybe needed very little concentrate do struggle compared to rams coming of harder farms which might have needed concentrate to maintain them over the winter.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

I have found over the years and with various breeds that those rams bought of good farms that have maybe needed very little concentrate do struggle compared to rams coming of harder farms which might have needed concentrate to maintain them over the winter.

Not sure that should be true though. We now produce a number of our own replacement rams due to the difficulties of sourcing grass fed rams that produce easy lambing ewes and have some longevity.

The Aberdales do not seem to maintain much body condition, unlike a pure Texel which once you have the right strain will last a long time even when only fed grass all year.
The Romneys, Southdowns and Charollais are never a problem.

I seem to remember that many of the prolificacy genes originated from either a Merino or a soft brees such as a Dorset, Finn or Friesland. This might explain why they hybrids deteriorate more quickly.

 

[GTB]

I have 2 aberfield rams....after arriving home ,both ran across the field when I poured nuts into a trough for some calves!
No complaints about their offspring fattening or them holding condition though, so I don't mind at all.

We farm pretty local to Innovis and I take everything they say with a small pinch of salt. However I know a lot of people that use their rams and have to say from what I've seen and heard they do exactly what it says on the tin.