Kverneland ploughing query

[will_mck]

I know a fella has a 4 furrow model e plough and recently it's had the turn over ram fixed. Since it ploughs 4 furrow perfect on one side and when turned over it only ploughs 3 on the other. The first furrow sits in line with the wheel. I have the exact same plough and I thought I'll fix this easily for him, I checked the stabilizers on the tractor arms were slack when ploughing. I checked the turn over ram length against my own, I adjusted the off set on the plough beam every which way and measured it against my own. The plough sits level in the ground. I've checked everything I could think the problem is but it's a strange one. The toplink should follow straight behind the tractor but doesn't, his front and back wheels are in line. Ive asked are the lift arms the same length before hooking the plough on. What's the obvious thing that I've missed?

 

[will_mck]

Also would anyone have a pdf manual for this model?

 

[clbarclay]

Kverneland are pretty good for downloading manuals from.

Media database / Home - Kverneland Group Download Centre

download.kvernelandgroup.com

 

[Macsky]

Is it definitely turning over all the way on the dodgy side?

 

[Sharpy]

I know a fella has a 4 furrow model e plough and recently it's had the turn over ram fixed. Since it ploughs 4 furrow perfect on one side and when turned over it only ploughs 3 on the other. The first furrow sits in line with the wheel. I have the exact same plough and I thought I'll fix this easily for him, I checked the stabilizers on the tractor arms were slack when ploughing. I checked the turn over ram length against my own, I adjusted the off set on the plough beam every which way and measured it against my own. The plough sits level in the ground. I've checked everything I could think the problem is but it's a strange one. The toplink should follow straight behind the tractor but doesn't, his front and back wheels are in line. Ive asked are the lift arms the same length before hooking the plough on. What's the obvious thing that I've missed?

A twisted leg pushing the plough over?

 

[Welderloon]

I know a fella has a 4 furrow model e plough and recently it's had the turn over ram fixed. Since it ploughs 4 furrow perfect on one side and when turned over it only ploughs 3 on the other. The first furrow sits in line with the wheel. I have the exact same plough and I thought I'll fix this easily for him, I checked the stabilizers on the tractor arms were slack when ploughing. I checked the turn over ram length against my own, I adjusted the off set on the plough beam every which way and measured it against my own. The plough sits level in the ground. I've checked everything I could think the problem is but it's a strange one. The toplink should follow straight behind the tractor but doesn't, his front and back wheels are in line. Ive asked are the lift arms the same length before hooking the plough on. What's the obvious thing that I've missed?

Does the plough have any welding or a bend around the headstock pivot?

 

[will_mck]

It turns over all the way on the dodgey side, I thought it was the big nut on the ram that wasn't put back to where it belonged but if it was set right it would pllugh badly on both sides. The ram is set the same as the one on my plough.

When you look down the plough all the points are in line and it's an autoreset plough so no bent legs. I notice the main bearings on the headstock have alot of play in my mind compared to my own plough but I didn't want to say and I didn't think that was really the problem.

I see the first section of the beam had been welded in the past but the problem on began when the turn over ram had been removed and seal replaced. If it was mine I'd play about the ram nut to see what difference it made

 

[will_mck]

Wonder would an unever cross shaft cause this problem? On one side only

 

[Welderloon]

Unequal cross shaft will knock out your true line going in one direction if its set up for the other direction

 

[KB6930]

Wonder would an unever cross shaft cause this problem? On one side onlyView attachment 1178328

It was cause an issue both ways one woukd be wide one would be narrow

 

[flywheel]

Could you hitch your tractor on his plough .see if does the same .

 

[will_mck]

I was speaking to the owner last night he removed one of the disks on the plough which he said seemed to have helped slightly. I was thinking since I noticed yesterday morning someone had welded bar onto the skimmer boards edge where the skimmer board wears away, on some of these skimmer boards the point sticks out past the line of the landslide and this resulted in two of the points scraping against the discs, I thought at the time this shouldn't be but didn't mention it to him. I actually think now that this is causing a couple of discs on the dodgey side to act like a rudder and steer the plough over and out of line. I must say to him to grind off the welded on edges on the skimmer board that stick out past the line of the landslide to let a couple of discs run true behind the plough again.....that's my theory anyway, I'll update on the results

 

[will_mck]

Turns out the skimmers had been taken off last winter and then put on the wrong way again which moved them towards the discs and the discs didn't run true behind the plough acting like a rudder steering the plough off centre all the time. It's funny it's obvious once you realise but confusing when you don't notice the problem