Thick Farmer
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- West Wales
Lime. Does it make that much difference ?
- Thread starter Vernon Carolgees the 4th
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Assuming its grass, you could get it on now and let the rain wash it in over the winter. We generally tend to do grass jobs in the spring but generally depends on how low the pH is and whether its dry enough to travel.
Thick Farmer
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- West Wales
What yield are you getting?
Thick Farmer
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- West Wales
I think you are wrong. If you invest in lime then the more productive grass will thrive and reduce your need to reseed.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I'm taking the view that there's sod all point reseeding until I have got the pH up to a reasonable level. No ryegrass/clover ley is going to thrive until pH is sorted, along with P levels (which will increase with sorting pH anyway, as it becomes more available).
- Location
- Ceredigion
It the ryegrass has died out its gone , surly better to reseed and start again
Old days it was half a ton of potasic slag 2 ton of liime 2 bags of triple super and a bag of seed
Thick Farmer
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- West Wales
Explain that to the mob stocking guys. They seem to think that just by letting grass get a bit older and improving soil indices causes an increase in more productive grasses!
Baling Hay
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Maybe if the reseeds were allowed to go to seed each year it would basically reseed itself each year?
- Location
- Cornwall.
Thick Farmer
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- West Wales
I suggested hay making as a reseed in another thread recently....
itmustshine
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- cheshire
interesting, I have had just over 300 acres sampled over last 12 months to get a true picture of everything. Now have approx 28 acre needing lime, ph5.6-5.8 mainly grassland but bit of wheat on away land,and I was hoping this and good flat lifting on 12 of those would make a difference. Start with basic principles and work upwards. Been a great thread again, thanks. 
It sounds like you have had the pH tested in the lab as part of an overall soil analysis, it would be better to get a good lime spreading contractor to do tests in the field as the pH will vary. Some areas might not need 12T/Ha, he will also advise on the best way to apply high rates. And yes you will see a difference if the pH really is that low.
Luke
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- Black Isle
What does it cost to have land GPS mapped for ph? Been thinking we should be doing this as contractors all seem to have the kit for vari rate spreading.
Depends where you are, we do it for a few people but there is obviously a cost attached to it and VRA contractors 'usually' want a bit more for spreading to justify the kit. As our manual service provides a result for every 1.5 to 2ac, its reasonably intensive and provides accurate areas for manual application, plus its a free service. Full gps pH testing would be around £2.50 - £4.00/ha depending on area to be sampled.
Derick
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- Lincolnshire
I would be very tempted to spread some granulate lime in this situation. If the ph is aslow as you say it is, you would only need to apply roughly 1tonne per hectarer rather then 10tonne. Also you can spread it yourself with your fertiliser spreader at 12/24/36meters and apply it where you want.
- Location
- Ceredigion
As Pete says spread 2.5 and see how it goes, large amounts in one hit not good
mushnt grummmble
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How much is a ton of the granules?I would be very tempted to spread some granulate lime in this situation. If the ph is aslow as you say it is, you would only need to apply roughly 1tonne per hectarer rather then 10tonne. Also you can spread it yourself with your fertiliser spreader at 12/24/36meters and apply it where you want.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Here we go again.........
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
About £120