Marshall v Bailey trailers

[oil barron]

Yup, sitting above a full width flat edge that holds grain as you drive away from the heap. Like I said, if the designers had ever worked on a farm they wouldn't have made such basic errors.

Hard to tell from the picture, but those look like the cheap Russian remould 'super' singles that they used to sell as standard equipment, hard as nails but leave 4" ruts wherever they go. Cheap, but not so cheerful.

And does that one have the 'classic' Marshall 70's style flat topped walking beam axles that leave a trail of spilt grain half way back to the field, or is it on sprung axles?

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That edge isn’t flat, it’s a 45deg slope. The only grain that carries is inside the wheels. I think they were 420/85s originally on that trailer which are slightly wider but fit on an Agri super single wheel, that’s a replacement agri super single. Fancy flotations are great until you have a blowout on one 12 miles from home that can’t be fixed and no one has a replacement in stock. It has springs which have been an option back to at least 1994 when my dad bought an 8 tonner. Of course he went with walking beams like everyone else back then pulling with 7610s at 19.5mph.

 

[Tim1989]

Got 2 16 ton Marshalls Been good trailers Get used every week of the year hauling muck silage and maize
Top of ram broke on one Marshall changed it for free on warranty
Been tipped over loaded with maize due to driver error and you can’t tell it happened no damage at all

 

[warksfarmer]

The trailers we bought from grandfather Charlie were fine, as in every trailer manufacturer in the 80’s / 90’s produced broadly similar offerings in terms of design and specification. Fast forward to the early 2000’s and that’s where other manufacturers design’s really started to improve along with build quality and the type of options available. Charles jr carried on for far longer with the basic trailer design, before ‘updating’ it with the purple chassis. I admit I haven’t looked under a Marshall trailer for a few years as there was always more innovation on show on other competitors stands at The Highland, and when walking past Marshall’s I wouldn’t give them more than a cursory glance.

When we look back at the evolution of trailer design since the millennium, the improvements for what boils down to a box on a chassis with axles and a drawbar are simply astounding. I remember seeing a Krampe (thanks to @warksfarmer) for the first time and being gobsmacked that it was just so far ahead of anything available from UK manufacturers. Every aspect was an improvement, proper commercial axles with new fangled flotation tyres, air brakes with load sensing, rolled steel bodies and innovative rear door mechanisms with hydraulic locking, pretty much everything we now think of as ‘standard’. A decade later the domestic manufacturers were either incorporating some of these features or offering these features as options, while Marshall were still producing mid sized trailers with rocking beam axles and 4” brake shoes, mounted on parallel flange channel chassis’s, the same as you’d find on a Salop trailer from the early 70’s. I spoke to Charles at the 2012 Highland and asked him if he could build us another trailer but with some options, and his reply was “no, we’re busy enough, we don’t need to do ‘specials’ “. Needless to say the Irish trailer that replaced the previous run of 4 successive Marshall’s blew their offering into the weeds, little design touches like the rear light housings shedding grain by tipping with the body and proper high speed commercial axles. More to the point, the details of the fit and finish, it must have been designed and built by staff that had actually carted grain, which was eye opening.

Anyway, this isn’t intended as an ‘ad hominem’ rant against Marshall, and I’m glad that their current range of trailers are finding favour with many farmers, well done to them.

Yes all the U.K. manufacturers copied us. I started working with them in 2004 and they were miles ahead of the U.K. market. Great company to work with and still family owned. Sadly the exchange rate stopped it for me although they are still selling in the U.K. I still think it’s the best trailer around but it comes at a price.

 

[jamesy]

Had a new QM11 for harvest and am well pleased with it. Probably go for a QM1200 if I was to have another.

 

[Chae1]

Even changed there colour to match a Stewart!

 

[killie_cowboy]

Even changed there colour to match a Stewart!

You can have it in about any colour you could want. Certainly with Agricar, every Marshall they order in for stock is painted blue. Boys at the factory even said they wish they had painted them blue originally as it doesn't fade as easy, etc. I still prefer mine in red tho.

 

[Boohoo]

Do they still supply the bottle of touch up paint if you don't get the trailer in standard Marshall pink?

 

[Happy]

Do they still supply the bottle of touch up paint if you don't get the trailer in standard Marshall pink?

Yes.

 

[Chae1]

You can have it in about any colour you could want. Certainly with Agricar, every Marshall they order in for stock is painted blue. Boys at the factory even said they wish they had painted them blue originally as it doesn't fade as easy, etc. I still prefer mine in red tho.

Yeah pink wasn't a good look when they faded. Look better in blue in my opinion.

 

[Sharpy]

It's not flat, it's angled down and also tips with the trailer so unless you're tipping in a very low shed where you can get it up much at all it should just run straight off.

You can also see there the LED lights on it which are a nice job and my aftermarket coo mat mudflaps.

It's the same design as my 2000 qm11. Also re the rockers/spring comment by @PSQ , you specced springs or rockers when you ordered, both a no cost option over the other if it was standard on your preferred trailer.

 

[lloyd]

I spoke to one of the Marshall brothers about a sh trailer
about 4 years ago ,i found him very helpful unlike some other trailer
manufacturers i've spoke to .We've got two flatbed trailers I like them,
would certainly consider another.

 

[chickens and wheat]

Our 2007 qm was as a revalation when we got it, hydraulic door and next to no grain on ledges after tipping. Light units being the biggest ledge

The right indicator bulb started coming loose and dangerously not working so I replaced with led units. The smaller units reduced grain cling after tipping still further.

 

[jamesy]

Even changed there colour to match a Stewart!

Hoped it wouldn’t fade to pink

 

[Robert K]

I Have been quoted on 16t grain trailers floatation tires hyd end doors air brakes rollover sheet led lights.
The Bailey is £880.more expensive.
are Marshalls any good?

Which other trailer manufacturers have you had quotes from

 

[ollie989898]

Get quotes out of Stewart and Larrington, with the way things are maybe one will do you a keen deal?

 

[nonemouse]

We do have a qm14 we got 5 years ago I bought it in a dark shed .
The body has disintegrated its a 07 model . The guy pricing the Marshall is a small company and is good to work with.
Unfortunately I think the Bailey will depreciation will be lower

I have a four year old Bailey, bought because it was cheaper than the Marshall (from agrisource) Nothing ‘wrong’ with the Bailey but with hindsight I think the Marshall is probably better built. Like you I think (for some reason) the baileys seem to do better with resale value locally. I also have a similar size but older Richard western, which I think is better built, but at the time Richard western was a lump more expensive.

 

[Chae1]

Might get a cheap K2.

 

[Will 1594]

Hoped it wouldn’t fade to pink

Better to get ,visarge colour , they fade to grey Sorry .

 

[Archie]

I have a four year old Bailey, bought because it was cheaper than the Marshall (from agrisource) Nothing ‘wrong’ with the Bailey but with hindsight I think the Marshall is probably better built. Like you I think (for some reason) the baileys seem to do better with resale value locally. I also have a similar size but older Richard western, which I think is better built, but at the time Richard western was a lump more expensive.

Bailey being sold by mainly JD dealers helps them a lot.
Deeroid blinkers on. Same with the Kv ploughs that most of them sell. Auto reset system from the last century, big selling point when advertising secondhand if it has no welds yet still regarded as the thing to have

 

[jg123]

Got a high spec marshall flat trailer and hire in a high spec bailey. The marshall is a better trailer and paint has lasted better than the bailey.

Can't comment on the tipping trailers other than the man I hire the bailey flat from has just changed his 12t bailey for 2x 12t marshall trailers and says he's happy.

I'm sure there are heavier and stronger trailers than a marshall but they are definitely not a poor trailer (the new ones) and usually not a premium price. Down side is second hand value but we keep trailers a long time so not so worried and hopefully values will improve as people trust the brand again