Nosey people who don't have a clue

Poison Pen

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Location
on their case
http://www.nigelweller.co.uk/blognews/4585878241/The-sad-tale-of-Thistle-the-donkey/9185379

Have put this on here before,but I am always interested in people who have experienced Anna Harrison working with the RSPCA. Of course she doesn't go by her married name of Mrs Thomas,even though she's married to former(?) RSPCA inspector Neil Thomas .Harrison should be a member of the ex DEFRA vets hall of shame along with her former colleague Ralph Drouin,who Private Eye considered worthy of an article.
 

Short_Angus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Neighbour got a visit from SSPCA inspector after a report from a concerned lady of cattle shut in a very small shed without food or water.

See pic below :D:D:D


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I don't have one (feed wagon that is) so can't answer sorry @brynseiri . Our place is VERY susceptible to spore transfer and disease transfer so although I will stop the EHO in their tracks it's not because I am being petty, I have good grounds for doing so and they are aware of that.
What I mean is feed deliveries, when you say you're a grower, I take it you mean broilers? The feed wagon will obviously do more than one site a day, yet the driver won't be showered, the only disinfection will be at your gate.
 

Paddington

Member
Location
Soggy Shropshire
A neighbour once commented on the sorry state of our sheep, in particular their coats which were hanging off. The RSPCA was mentioned at one point, "that's fine by me " I said, it happens every year when Wiltshire Horns shed their fleece. She'd never heard of hair sheep though her husband is a farmer.
 

Gulli

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
No they can't. When ever the EHO turn up at our place I always ask where they have come from and if they have come from another farm or grower then they stop exactly where they are and are not allowed any further under ANY circumstances :stop: They are given the option of calling out another team who have not been on a farm that day .... or they can go home, shower, change their clothes and return ... or they can return unannounced on another day provided they have been to no farms or growers that same day. They do NOT have the right to potentially cause any breach of your hygiene or bio-security measures. They don't like being challenged over this but if it is a point that is important to you and they can clearly see that you are implementing such hygiene practices then they have to comply ....no if's no buts :stop:
Yeah that's fair enough but I mean they don't need a warrant to enter your property. If they haven't been on a farm previous to you then you can't stop them legally.
I assume you can lock them out as I don't reckon they are allowed to cut locks off.
 

Welsh Farmer

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Wales
What I mean is feed deliveries, when you say you're a grower, I take it you mean broilers? The feed wagon will obviously do more than one site a day, yet the driver won't be showered, the only disinfection will be at your gate.

Sorry no, not broilers .... veg and salad crops mainly. As for the wagons, we use the large tautliners and the haulage company have to handover a certificate that they have disinfected the lorry with a specified chemical prior to loading and that they have come straight from the collection point to our place with no deviations. The lorry stops in the village, phones through to us and we nip out with the knapsack sprayer just to do the wheels, arches and cab cab foot plates prior to it coming on site. It's not perfect but it does help with disease control.
 

RushesToo

Member
Location
Fingringhoe
Sorry no, not broilers .... veg and salad crops mainly. As for the wagons, we use the large tautliners and the haulage company have to handover a certificate that they have disinfected the lorry with a specified chemical prior to loading and that they have come straight from the collection point to our place with no deviations. The lorry stops in the village, phones through to us and we nip out with the knapsack sprayer just to do the wheels, arches and cab cab foot plates prior to it coming on site. It's not perfect but it does help with disease control.
Wow that is some control. Can see why you might be a bit touchy about some dirty random entering the property.
:)
 

Welsh Farmer

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Wales
Wow that is some control. Can see why you might be a bit touchy about some dirty random entering the property.
:)

We've always been very careful :) All our buckets are colour coded so that for example a blue bucket didn't end up in green or yellow bucket shed. The GFW's clothing is recorded every day so that if one of them was wearing light blue jeans with a red jumper the the following day he would have to be dressed in something different or we had on-farm laundry facilities whereby clothes could be washed and dried daily at our expense.
 

Welsh Farmer

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Wales
+ 1 for that. Can I ask why veg and salad crops are so vulnerable to disease @Welsh Farmer ? Is that a really stupid question? All I know about veg growing is from my own garden.

Mostly it was for the disease spread with the mushroom spores .... and that was a MASSIVE problem. We even UV all our water that comes in to crop contact and we UV the air in the growing houses for good measure. Now that we deal mostly with trial crops (which we deliberately infect on times) we have to make sure that disease does not travel from one crop to another because obviously this could affect the trial result.
 

Wendy10

Member
Location
Carmarthenshire
Mostly it was for the disease spread with the mushroom spores .... and that was a MASSIVE problem. We even UV all our water that comes in to crop contact and we UV the air in the growing houses for good measure. Now that we deal mostly with trial crops (which we deliberately infect on times) we have to make sure that disease does not travel from one crop to another because obviously this could affect the trial result.
Very impressive. Thanks
 

Becs

Member
Location
Wiltshire
My husband had a call one morning from a neighbour who's garden is alongside a field where we turn out the cows as they calve in the spring.
"There's a dead calf by the fence"
OH. "Are you sure it's not just asleep? Have you given it a prod?"
Neighbour became irate "Of course I'm sure. Come and move it straight away as I don't want to be seeing a dead calf every time I look out of my window"
As you can guess, as soon as my husband got there and poked it it rose from the dead and skipped off to find mum! Neighbour was watching from his back door and turned tail and scuttled back in!
Last year we had another phone call to say a footpath walker had seen 4 dead lambs - all turned out to be having a lovely snooze when we rushed out to check!
We do get useful phone calls too so not complaining about the odd wrong one. I try and forewarn any new-comers when the calves are being weaned off as it does sound hugely distressing if you're new to country living.
 
A member of the public called the police who informed the rspca that our collie was in a proper dog crate on the back of the gator? we do a lot on the road and having it inside or loose on the back is unacceptable. rspca inspector very happy but wasting police time of that too? police must have given them farms address as the rspca dropped a note to call them. joke
 

Clive Tee

Member
Location
Shropshire
I had a batch of young bulls get out once and to my horror found them in my neighbours garden, which they had trashed. The only concern my neighbour expressed was whether I was going to charge him for fertiliser :D. Wouldn't let me pay for anything. Nice couple, engineer and a teacher, both gone now unfortunately :(.

Anyhow, when I had the leader of the group slaughtered, I gave them a big joint off him.

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Shep

Member
I have a cow with a small white patch under her eye, from a distance it almost looks like she's crying.
The neighbour is convinced of this and thinks the cow is incredibly sad, she has never rang the authorities but has asked me a couple of times about why the cow would be so miserable.
She has also been known to burst into tears herself while watching lambs play.
But dosn't bat an eyelid when her yappy little bark machine chases weanling heifers through six strands of barbed wire, and the heifers have to be moved to another farm cos the wee sh!t won't leave them alone.
 

Fenris

New Member
There is a petition running with the aim of getting the government to bring the RSPCA under control. Please consider signing and sharing because the more signatures it gets the more likely it is that the promised EFRA committee investigation into their prosecutions will take place.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/109469

Remove the prosecution rights of the RSPCA

At the moment the RSPCA abuse their position to seize and prosecute innocent and vulnerable owners of animals, leading to extortionate costs. A number of these convictions are made on the evidence of lies by the RSPCA. It is wrong for the same organisation to investigate and prosecute.


To get a fair trial of the accused it would be better for the Crown Prosecution Services to take any prosecution forward
 

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