Ploughing today

[Roy Stokes]

picture on the first page of this thread is enough to substantiate what i need to prove...as are the pictures of ploughing done at home, on good hearted land whats been looked after well

you cant make a monet out of a hessian sack...as is proved by the pics of everyone elses plots

there wasnt a "perfect" plot in the field that day, not a single one, some had high starts, others couldnt pee straight in the snow...the list could go on

But there looked to be some that actually resembled ploughing John

 

[John 1594]

You will never learn from my website John, as you are too clever to even understand it, however when a complete stranger approaches me at a match and thanks me for the information on the website which has happened 4 times to date, it has made it all worth while.

No ive had far better advice from a member on her who i wont mention, who is to the point, but without the vitriol, acidic tounge and self righteousness that you seem to posess in greater number than trophys

 

[John 1594]

But there looked to be some that actually resembled ploughing John

indeed, and they have probably spent a great deal of time and money to get that far

had i had a set of narrower tyres, bright boards, the cross shaft 3" further over, who knows

wont know now till august, as that will be its next outing, on something what will certainly brighten it, or break it in halves

 

[Roy Stokes]

No ive had far better advice from a member on her who i wont mention, who is to the point, but without the vitriol, acidic tounge and self righteousness that you seem to posess in greater number than trophys

As I have mentioned earlier young man, you get what you give in this life...........................

 

[John 1594]

As I have mentioned earlier young man, you get what you give in this life...........................

Indeed

maybe i have yorkshire blood then, as i give nothing away either

This is what i see as ploughing...i can achieve this day in day out all winter...to me, an entire field ploughed up and down to the road, with stripes in it like the village cricket pitch, has as much attraction as a quarter acre plot that its taken someone a £1000 quids worth of modifications and three hours on the seat to complete.

 

[fingermouse]

Indeed

maybe i have yorkshire blood then, as i give nothing away either

This is what i see as ploughing...i can achieve this day in day out all winter...to me, an entire field ploughed up and down to the road, with stripes in it like the village cricket pitch, has as much attraction as a quarter acre plot that its taken someone a £1000 quids worth of modifications and three hours on the seat to complete.

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Good on you ,carry on with your everyday ploughing
And leave the quarter of an acre plots done with the fancy ploughs to the people who actually enjoy it
I used to match plough and I made some proper pigs ears at times though I did have the grace to take it on the chin
I also listened to far better men at it than Me and learnt from my mistakes

 

[opininionated]

picture on the first page of this thread is enough to substantiate what i need to prove...as are the pictures of ploughing done at home, on good hearted land whats been looked after well

you cant make a monet out of a hessian sack...as is proved by the pics of everyone elses plots

there wasnt a "perfect" plot in the field that day, not a single one, some had high starts, others couldnt pee straight in the snow...the list could go on

Surely the whole point of a ploughing match is that it is held in a field so all competitors have the same conditions, enabling it to be a contest between men and machines. If the match was held on good hearted land that is easy to plough, then it really isn't a contest for the top ranking ploughmen because perfection will be easier to attain.
I have no knowledge of match ploughing, but as a bystander I would think holding a match under difficult conditions would be far more rewarding to win a podium position than 'easy' ground.
Perhaps your experience of ploughing hearty land has given you a false impression of the skills that the top ploughmen need to possess, and you are now having difficulty accepting that you aren't up to scratch.

 

[REStracTORATION]

@John 1594 i think you should set your very own forum up.

 

[John 1594]

Surely the whole point of a ploughing match is that it is held in a field so all competitors have the same conditions, enabling it to be a contest between men and machines. If the match was held on good hearted land that is easy to plough, then it really isn't a contest for the top ranking ploughmen because perfection will be easier to attain.
I have no knowledge of match ploughing, but as a bystander I would think holding a match under difficult conditions would be far more rewarding to win a podium position than 'easy' ground.
Perhaps your experience of ploughing hearty land has given you a false impression of the skills that the top ploughmen need to possess, and you are now having difficulty accepting that you aren't up to scratch.

Believe me, that pictured above isnt easy ground, we have light land too, pure silt in some places. But we are good farmers, and take care to leave a nice clean stubble with no loose trash, so that following operations can be carried out easily, and cleanly

after all, its the folling crop thats important

 

[yorkie]

picture on the first page of this thread is enough to substantiate what i need to prove...as are the pictures of ploughing done at home, on good hearted land whats been looked after well

you cant make a monet out of a hessian sack...as is proved by the pics of everyone elses plots

there wasnt a "perfect" plot in the field that day, not a single one, some had high starts, others couldnt pee straight in the snow...the list could go on

If you can only plough on one type of land you can not plough,all the raking rubbish out of the way should not be allowed,have even seen them pull long stuble out by hand,plough is used to bury rubbish and plough different soils,in all years have never seen any one at a match years of rust on mouldboards and then expect to make a decent job,then blame the field

 

[John 1594]

@John 1594 i think you should set your very own forum up.

havent got the time nowdays, as my longer absences on here and facebook indicate

its a mix of getting older, a wider circle of friends, family, and the work diary being fully booked, plus enjoying the finer things in life

 

[yorkie]

Indeed

maybe i have yorkshire blood then, as i give nothing away either

This is what i see as ploughing...i can achieve this day in day out all winter...to me, an entire field ploughed up and down to the road, with stripes in it like the village cricket pitch, has as much attraction as a quarter acre plot that its taken someone a £1000 quids worth of modifications and three hours on the seat to complete.

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Don't you go insulting Yorkshire people where you live

 

[John 1594]

If you can only plough on one type of land you can not plough,all the raking rubbish out of the way should not be allowed,have even seen them pull long stuble out by hand,plough is used to bury rubbish and plough different soils,in all years have never seen any one at a match years of rust on mouldboards and then expect to make a decent job,then blame the field

but its in the rules apparently.............

Soils vary. Say we was now in august, i could take any plough whats been in a hedge for 30 years, plough two breeds down our number 8 field and it would be as bright as a sixpence, its just the nature of that land, its got the weight in it to put pressure on the plough

if i took it across the road into number 10, it would still be rusty 12 acres later

 

[John 1594]

Don't you go insulting Yorkshire people where you live

nothing wrong with being "frugal" as i call it

Il admit, there are worse places, i might be up your way soon. Other half has always wanted to go on a steam train, so a trip to the north york moors is being planned for just before harvest

 

[opininionated]

Believe me, that pictured above isnt easy ground, we have light land too, pure silt in some places. But we are good farmers, and take care to leave a nice clean stubble with no loose trash, so that following operations can be carried out easily, and cleanly

after all, its the folling crop thats important

I hadn't seen the picture when I wrote my post, I was referring to your description of your land earlier.
Having looked at your picture, It looks like the type of ploughing that you might do knowing full well that the combi drill is just finishing the headlands in the previous field, good enough for what's is required but not to be left to be seen for long.

 

[REStracTORATION]

nothing wrong with being "frugal" as i call it

Il admit, there are worse places, i might be up your way soon. Other half has always wanted to go on a steam train, so a trip to the north york moors is being planned for just before harvest

Goathland!

 

[norse]

Indeed

maybe i have yorkshire blood then, as i give nothing away either

This is what i see as ploughing...i can achieve this day in day out all winter...to me, an entire field ploughed up and down to the road, with stripes in it like the village cricket pitch, has as much attraction as a quarter acre plot that its taken someone a £1000 quids worth of modifications and three hours on the seat to complete.

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Had you dropped back to three furrows in the picture John?

 

[John 1594]

I hadn't seen the picture when I wrote my post, I was referring to your description of your land earlier.
Having looked at your picture, It looks like the type of ploughing that you might do knowing full well that the combi drill is just finishing the headlands in the previous field, good enough for what's is required but not to be left to be seen for long.

Its right next to the main road, and it hasnt been drilled yet. We never autumn drill that field, its not cost effective, its better to let the winter do the work

 

[REStracTORATION]

havent got the time nowdays, as my longer absences on here and facebook indicate

its a mix of getting older, a wider circle of friends, family, and the work diary being fully booked, plus enjoying the finer things in life

Sorry im replying inbetween coats

Busy chap you then ay...

I took some of your advice the other day and put it to practice applied to a job i had in ...

 

[John 1594]

Had you dropped back to three furrows in the picture John?

we swap and chop it about through the season, the heavier stuff thats always spring cropped, gets ploughed deep, 3 x 16", while its half dry, then as it gets later we go to 4 x 14" to do the kinder land and stuff coming winter cereals

it works for us, thats the main thing