RSPCA complete idiots

[DRC]

last year , a man I supplied straw and haylage to, was accused by the RSPCA of cruelty to his horses and dogs, many that he’d rescued at his own expense.
He was harassed, and mentally tortured by them and a homophonic police officer over many months, despite the local vets and people like myself , vouching for how the animals were well cared for.
One morning they swooped on him with two artic lorries and removed all his horses, causing great upset to him and some of the mares subsequently aborted foals. They were removed to somewhere in Wales.
I’ve just heard that yesterday , all charges were dropped and costs of £1.5 million awarded against the RSPCA .
I hope he sues the hell out of them and the local rag that hung him out to dry before the trial. The first story they did , virtually condemned him. He then suffered terrible abuse on Facebook
Anyone that knows me, will know I wouldn’t stand for any animal cruelty.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news...r-shropshire-man-accused-of-animal-currently/

 

[MF 135 Man]

Shocking! Just another out of touch charity being led by people with no real knowledge.

 

[ThatsSomeSheep]

last year , a man I supplied straw and haylage to, was accused by the RSPCA of cruelty to his horses and dogs, many that he’d rescued at his own expense.
He was harassed, and mentally tortured by them and a homophonic police officer over many months, despite the local vets and people like myself , vouching for how the animals were well cared for.
One morning they swooped on him with two artic lorries and removed all his horses, causing great upset to him and some of the mares subsequently aborted foals. They were removed to somewhere in Wales.
I’ve just heard that yesterday , all charges were dropped and costs of £1.5 million awarded against the RSPCA .
I hope he sues the hell out of them and the local rag that hung him out to dry before the trial. The first story they did , virtually condemned him. He then suffered terrible abuse on Facebook
Anyone that knows me, will know I wouldn’t stand for any animal cruelty.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news...r-shropshire-man-accused-of-animal-currently/

Hope your friend / customer is ok. Good luck to him.

TSS

 

[franklin]

The only way these toerag local papers will learn us by suing the crap out of them.

 

[MaisiesDad]

Never had time for the RSPCA, my daughter likes to watch the rescue programmes on tv, some of the comments / stunts / methods / statements shown by the rspca are cringeworthy. Yes we need animal welfare and yes we need to prosecute those offending but not by these muppets

 

[adamntitch]

We had them at a yard I worked at they ended up making my manger get 4 horses shot saying they was neglected even tho her own vet was there and said they was fine we'll well that was the sspca

 

[Daniel]

Doesn't surprise me, their farm assurance arm is run by an ex-cwif activist who has demanded that hundreds of metres of extra perching in each old laying shed despite all the science showing it increases bone damage. The only effect it will have is to make flock management more difficult and push the older producers to quit the industry.

And then she wants to follow that up by banning beak trimming at day old with an infrared beam. About as painful as having your nails cut. This despite the trial flocks with untrimmed beaks suffering such high mortality that the study had to be abandoned.

There is absolutely zero engagement by RSPCA management at farm level, any attempt at dialogue is ignored.

They don't care about science, they're just ideologically driven by a hatred of commercial farming. I suspect the pet welfare side is no less biased.

 

[Barleycorn]

About time HRH took the 'Royal' title off them IMO. Dangerous muppets!

 

[Walterp]

Defence costs of £1.5 million?

Pull the other one; I'd doubt that very much. It's not remotely likely to be true.

Perhaps there can be a factual report of the case, rather than a lot of RSPCA-bashing farmers doing themselves (and the industry) no good at all by parading their prejudices on TFF?

 

[Extreme Optimist]

Defence costs of £1.5 million?

Pull the other one; I'd doubt that very much. It's not remotely likely to be true.

Perhaps there can be a factual report of the case, rather than a lot of RSPCA-bashing farmers doing themselves (and the industry) no good at all by parading their prejudices on TFF?

Well I guess it depends upon your experiences with them doesn't it @Walterp . I had issues with them and the treatment of a neighbour when they wouldn't intervene. They were appalling and could not see what was in front of their eyes. Ultimately Trading Standards came in and 30% of the animals had to be destroyed. This could and should have been avoided!
The problem with the RSPCA is that they only go after the easy cases - sometimes against all reason.

 

[Daniel]

Defence costs of £1.5 million?

Pull the other one; I'd doubt that very much. It's not remotely likely to be true.

Perhaps there can be a factual report of the case, rather than a lot of RSPCA-bashing farmers doing themselves (and the industry) no good at all by parading their prejudices on TFF?

Do you label all opinion you don't agree with a 'predjudice'?

 

[SLA]

There was an article doing the rounds the other year written by some one who was seriously investigating them and the stuff they found was horrendous, some of their sources being inspectors. The whole thing had started after a woman had her horses taken and wanted to find out what had happened to them.
Best advice I ever heard was if you get a knock on the door, refuse access (they have no legal right of entry, that's why they need the police) and ring your vet immediately for a visit/inspection.
As with anything else sure some of them are ok but I've heard too many first hand accounts to trust any of them.

 

[honeyend]

I have always been concerned that the RSPCA seems to be concerned with prosecuting owners, and not helping through education and perhaps use of expert help for people that have fallen behind due to poor health or circumstances. There also seems to be a lack of understanding of what a healthy outdoor living animal looks like in winter. There is a huge problem with obesity in leisure animals which is a welfare issue but they never seem to want to tackle that.They seem to go for easy targets with homes, and property and I have heard of a case where they had to return costs because they returned animals to the owner with health problems, that were not there before they were seized.
The huge bill may be because the RSPCA claim costs for the animal keep and treatment, which is far more than most of us would keep and animal for and they inflate the costs, in the hope they will obtain costs from the defendant. In the case of some Arab horses they claimed livery and vet fees for animals that had been destroyed a few months before.

 

[DRC]

The only way these toerag local papers will learn us by suing the crap out of them.

They seem to have conveniently buried the original story, as i can't find it online anywhere, with just subsequent stories about trial dates. maybe it aws because i complained

Defence costs of £1.5 million?

Pull the other one; I'd doubt that very much. It's not remotely likely to be true.

Perhaps there can be a factual report of the case, rather than a lot of RSPCA-bashing farmers doing themselves (and the industry) no good at all by parading their prejudices on TFF?

i didn’t say it was just defence costs and was reporting what I was told via someone very close to the case. We weren’t talking about one or two horses, but about 140 that were removed, some very valuable as they were a rare breed. The cost of removing them to near the welsh coast and someone looking after them would be considerable , add in the vets costs etc, and I’d quite see how the cost would build up.
Maybe you’ve represented the RSPCA at some point, and are biased towards them.

 

[yellowbelly]

Defence costs of £1.5 million?

Pull the other one; I'd doubt that very much. It's not remotely likely to be true.

That is NOT what it says in the OP @Walterp

FFS, I wouldn't want you representing me in a professional capacity if you're that cavalier with the facts

 

[AGN76]

Welsh coast? I suspect they are next door to me now then

 

[Kiwi Pete]

How very sad for the guy - whatever happened to assumed innocence until guilt is proven?
There is a similar on-going issue in our town with a girl that runs a few sheep and horses, it isn't a case of neglect or cruelty either, more a "neighbours at war" scenario - and horses eating horse tucker., the SPCA is the weapon of choice

 

[kill]

last year , a man I supplied straw and haylage to, was accused by the RSPCA of cruelty to his horses and dogs, many that he’d rescued at his own expense.
He was harassed, and mentally tortured by them and a homophonic police officer over many months, despite the local vets and people like myself , vouching for how the animals were well cared for.
One morning they swooped on him with two artic lorries and removed all his horses, causing great upset to him and some of the mares subsequently aborted foals. They were removed to somewhere in Wales.
I’ve just heard that yesterday , all charges were dropped and costs of £1.5 million awarded against the RSPCA .
I hope he sues the hell out of them and the local rag that hung him out to dry before the trial. The first story they did , virtually condemned him. He then suffered terrible abuse on Facebook
Anyone that knows me, will know I wouldn’t stand for any animal cruelty.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news...r-shropshire-man-accused-of-animal-currently/

At least he's still here to sue them unlike a very close friend of mine who was persecuted by the RSPCA for a stupid charge ( letting his very elderly dog live a little to long) which lead to serious depression and taking his own life.

He was a good farmer and his livestock were always in excellent condition and commended top prices at market but the RSPCA officer never even looked at them. Personally I think the 40 mile transportation of an elderly dog was the cruel bit by the RSPCA.

I'd never give them a penny EVER.

 

[AGN76]

My old vet tells a story where he was called out by Rspca to check a horse that was stuck in a ditch. They'd also called everyone bar the SAS. "All it needed was a slap on the arse" is his brilliant anecdote .
Sums them up I'm afraid.

 

[Dry Rot]

When it comes to horses, World Horse Welfare are the people to contact. My local inspector occasionally pops in for a chat and a news. He is ex-mounted police and very knowledgeable, also now a good friend. WHW's approach is always advisory -- and very tactfully done, too.

Remember those old multi-sided thrupenny bits? That's the last money the RSPCA got out of me and I've always resented it!