Speeding tractors.

[DCB]

New Navara is discs all round, better controllability with ABS and Stability prograk etc?

my 18 navara has drums

 

[Lincsman]

No 25mph is the legal limit for a agricultural vehicle I think you will find

Depending on whats hitched behind it of course.

 

[ricky_rascal]

my 18 navara has drums

I googled the drum brakes on back axles of pickups. General consensus seems to be cost, reliability and ease of use for handbrake. Also most of the time the front brakes are doing most of the work though as weight increases on rear some sort of load balancing comes into play. Also most said drums were plenty up to the job (which I don't doubt)

Last vehicle I had with rear disk brakes was a swb Shogun and they were little pigs for seizing. Was forever having to strip them down to stop them binding and getting hot.

But 25mph is speeding ! ;-)

And the a50 is like a country lane compared to the a38 where rarely a day passes without accident

All tractors should have a clearly visible beacon - it’s law so that’s a given (or should be !)

When are you allowed to upgrade to two beacons and eventually top tier of centre beacon lightbar

 

[Clive]

I googled the drum brakes on back axles of pickups. General consensus seems to be cost, reliability and ease of use for handbrake. Also most of the time the front brakes are doing most of the work though as weight increases on rear some sort of load balancing comes into play. Also most said drums were plenty up to the job (which I don't doubt)

Last vehicle I had with rear disk brakes was a swb Shogun and they were little pigs for seizing. Was forever having to strip them down to stop them binding and getting hot.



When are you allowed to upgrade to two beacons and eventually top tier of centre beacon lightbar

2 beacons is a bloody good idea along with one on the trailer or implement rear - the more that makes others aware of the slower speed tractor can only be a good thing

anyone that uses the a38 regular i'm sure will agree

 

[Clive]

my 18 navara has drums

finally a defender out specs a Jap pick-up on something

 

[ricky_rascal]

2 beacons is a bloody good idea along with one on the trailer or implement rear - the more that makes others aware of the slower speed tractor can only be a good thing

anyone that uses the a38 regular i'm sure will agree

My comment was tongue in cheek. The more the better to warn some drivers who don't seem to notice a tractor until they are on top of it.

 

[Henarar]

following these idiots with half a dozen flashing lights on a FFS and as for those bloody flashing LED things should be banned

 

[8100]

Maybe overtaking and patience should be part of the driving test these days ..

 

[Lincsman]

finally a defender out specs a Jap pick-up on something

But not a chinese Great wall!

 

[Tarw Coch]

following these idiots with half a dozen flashing lights on a FFS and as for those bloody flashing LED things should be banned

It don’t half strain your eyes getting stuck behind a trailer with a flashing LED at night, I’m torn between wether it’s a good idea to warn those who drive without any consideration for what else may be on the road or just dangerous for those following.

 

[Wombat]

It don’t half strain your eyes getting stuck behind a trailer with a flashing LED at night, I’m torn between wether it’s a good idea to warn those who drive without any consideration for what else may be on the road or just dangerous for those following.

I hate them if you have to follow one for 10 or 15mins at night you can see bugger all after at least put them at height. The person who designed the bracket on some of them should be made to sit in a darkened room and look at one for a few hours.

 

[Zebbedee]

There is a big air tank in the trailer chassis, its there to lock them on solid the moment a pipe breaks... and I mean solid... mind your head on the windscreen.

Depends on the type of air chambers fitted though not all work that way

 

[Cowabunga]

New Navara is discs all round, better controllability with ABS and Stability prograk etc?

ABS and stability programs work just fine with drum brakes.
Not all Navara have disc brakes at the back. In fact I have yet to see one with discs at the back.
Which Navara model has discs all round?
The Mercedes clone does, through the range though.

 

[Zebbedee]

I hate them if you have to follow one for 10 or 15mins at night you can see bugger all after at least put them at height. The person who designed the bracket on some of them should be made to sit in a darkened room and look at one for a few hours.

Totally agree no need whatsoever for flashing beacons on rear of trailers etc fit proper taillights that can be seen plenty bright led units nowadays which are brilliant and do not blind the vehicles behind, and or obscure indicator lights being mixed up with beacons

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

I hate them if you have to follow one for 10 or 15mins at night you can see bugger all after at least put them at height. The person who designed the bracket on some of them should be made to sit in a darkened room and look at one for a few hours.

Followed an ambulance on a single carriageway late one night for about half an hour. Felt like it burnt a hole in my retinas

 

[Tarw Coch]

Followed an ambulance on a single carriageway late one night for about half an hour. Felt like it burnt a hole in my retinas

Yes, I noticed that recently too.
I’m all for ambulances being highly visible but they now seem to have at least twice as many flashing lights as they reasonably need, the one I came across a couple of weeks ago one night was coming towards me and the blue flashing lights were so bright I couldn’t see the road properly when it was close.
Not sure how many flashing LED’s it had fitted but must have been well into double figures.

 

[Chae1]

Totally agree no need whatsoever for flashing beacons on rear of trailers etc fit proper taillights that can be seen plenty bright led units nowadays which are brilliant and do not blind the vehicles behind, and or obscure indicator lights being mixed up with beacons

If your hauling a big trailer where tractor beacons not visible at 25mph on a dual carriageway it warns drivers further back they are approaching a slow moving vehicle and to prepare to overtake. They are a good idea in my opinion and have them on our trailers.

 

[Tarw Coch]

If your hauling a big trailer where tractor beacons not visible at 25mph on a dual carriageway it warns drivers further back they are approaching a slow moving vehicle and to prepare to overtake. They are a good idea in my opinion and have them on our trailers.

Indeed, they are certainly a legal requirement on a dual carriageway if the beacons can’t be seen on the tractor.
I wouldn’t even dispute the idea of having them fitted is a good one but the practical reality is that they can cause eye fatigue for anyone stuck behind.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

If your hauling a big trailer where tractor beacons not visible at 25mph on a dual carriageway it warns drivers further back they are approaching a slow moving vehicle and to prepare to overtake. They are a good idea in my opinion and have them on our trailers.

That’s a very valid point and the exact reason for having beacons. It’s to warn the first fast approaching vehicle coming up on the rear.

The annoyance factor comes when you’re stuck immediately behind waiting to overtake but you can’t see for the flashing lights right in your face.

Would be neat if a rear facing sensor was installed to sense the vehicles headlights from behind (kind of like cars have with auto high beam) was able to shut the beacon off so as not to blind the vehicle following immediacy behind.

For ambulances too!

 

[Lincsman]

New Navara is discs all round, better controllability with ABS and Stability prograk etc?

Are the rear discs on the handbrake drum or like a car with just a disc?