I know there were various references to these on bff, but its not very easy to access those now. I am considering a switch from my beloved BrB x cows to enable a closed herd, in part prompted by a Tb breakdown. Having made the similar switch with my sheep, the Stabiliser concept appeals. Just as quiet, perhaps not the shape, but growth rates to make up for it, cheaper to keep, and easier calving, though have to say I haven't had much trouble in that department in last 12 months. Anyone got them and want to pass comment? Know of anyone in the south west who keeps them? Plan to 'grade up' from the cattle I've got, probably using AI to start with to make use of the best genetics.