Stubble to seed bed

[nick channer]

Do you need a drill?

Lookin at gettin one these !
Do u think it will cope ok with plenty stone and flint in soil??

 

[Sandy]

There's been some done at Fyvie and tarves

It looks good at fyvie

 

[quattro]

Ive not seen it yet il have to go have a look

 

[Clive]

aye if you could that would be great

Try John Derre ? Not sure why a owner would want to do a demo

 

[Knockie]

Lookin at gettin one these !
Do u think it will cope ok with plenty stone and flint in soil??

We've covered over 1400 ac with it this spring and seems to have stood up to stones very well, tines could do with changing now though.

 

[Knockie]

It looks good at fyvie

Some of our broadcast SB would be within a mile of that.
Give me a shout if you fancy a look around....pm sent.

 

[Dukes Fit]

Nevertheless driving on soil without a structure (ploughed) is always going to compact more than one with a structure (not ploughed).

This is why you hear farmers say "I can't direct drill because I have too many combine and baler ruts" whereas lots of direct drillers don't get them so bad or don't moan about them much.

Direct drilling has it's place and I'm a great believer in the benefits to soil health, but you could never put it in to 100% use in this neck of the woods. One wet harvest and the plough and powerharrow would be the only option.
Structure or not, if the ground is saturated and you run a combine on it, it makes a mess.

 

[Knockie]

Direct drilling has it's place and I'm a great believer in the benefits to soil health, but you could never put it in to 100% use in this neck of the woods. One wet harvest and the plough and powerharrow would be the only option.
Structure or not, if the ground is saturated and you run a combine on it, it makes a mess.

No Tilled land does carry machinery much much better, and if you run harvest CTF any problems are easily sorted out, admittedly it sometimes doesn't look that great, but then again its all about cost/tonne

 

[beltbreaker]

I went to see the Mzuri working at the BI monitor farm, in fairness this is a good season for it to be trialed. Field was rounduped and subsoiled so has everything going for it. 3m Machine was working well but needed all of the 215hp on the head of it fert tines down @ 5" sowing band @1-1.5". Conditions were spot on, aspect s North facing on a slight incline. Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow. Impressed with the engineering and the sales guys also the ability to work as an all round machine on stubble or ploughing.

The reason I said this is a good season for it to be trialled as the soil takes a lot of time to warm up and being a late spring having the patience to wait until mid April to get the right conditions whilst everone around you is going mental ploughing/drilling will take some self disapline. Also spring barley likes conditions to be right it doesn't like soil too dry, too wet not enough compaction or too much compaction and will soon tell you you have made an arse. (I only have to look at my own) Wheat and oats are more forgiving.

Turning the soil over exposing the heat absorbent black soil to the "sun" and releasing the mineralised N certainly works well up here. The growing season takes it's time yes we have more sun hrs but far less in the way of heat so harvest will be more likely September for malting barley meaning getting OSR in by the end of August is pretty difficult. Weed burdens could be a problem as we don't have time for stale seed beds/ weed chits. Life at 57.5+ degrees North is slightly different than Pembrokeshire or S.E England.

I have done a fair bit of DD grass over the years and most has been successful but it's a mindset waiting for the conditions to be right.

I wait with interest on the fence.

Cheers BB

 

[Sandy]

Was it a grain and fert machine?
Don't like the 215hp for a 3m drill though.

 

[beltbreaker]

Aye, was grain and fert was doing 10kph up the hill and was making a nice job. Pity none of the other lads invited to demo their machines were brave enough to come North.

Cheers BB

 

[Sandy]

Aye, was grain and fert was doing 10kph up the hill and was making a nice job. Pity none of the other lads invited to demo their machines were brave enough to come North.

Cheers BB

What I saw growing looked very good
Can anybody come to the monitor farm meeting?

 

[beltbreaker]

I would think there wouldn't be a problem with that. The more input the merrier. I think it was working around Barmuchity or maybe out the Lossie road as well. Maybe @ORRA LOON might know.

 

[quattro]

There was a demo at linkwood farms aswell at elgin

 

[Zebbedee]

What I saw growing looked very good
Can anybody come to the monitor farm meeting?

You will need your suit and tie on if you happen to come up @Sandy and your border pass will be checked at kessock bridge

 

[Sandy]

You will need your suit and tie on if you happen to come up @Sandy and your border pass will be checked at kessock bridge

It's all looking good now better than the amazone I was being a bit hasty with the horsch think il try some min till next year though.

 

[Stoosh]

Do you have to do a glyphosate stale seed bed if you don't use a plough?

 

[Zebbedee]

It's all looking good now better than the amazone I was being a bit hasty with the horsch think il try some min till next year though.

Yea bit o heat and it all changes @Sandy Don.t get caught up in all this fancy kit for min till get yourself a cheap old cultivator put some wide points on it a quick rub then your horsch drill for rape and wheat subsoil the compacted areas k.i.s.s plough for Spring barley

 

[Zebbedee]

Do you have to do a glyphosate stale seed bed if you don't use a plough?

ideally do a stale seed bed but 9 times out of time in our weather Windows there is no time opportunity to achieve it

 

[Sandy]

Yea bit o heat and it all changes @Sandy Don.t get caught up in all this fancy kit for min till get yourself a cheap old cultivator put some wide points on it a quick rub then your horsch drill for rape and wheat subsoil the compacted areas k.i.s.s plough for Spring barley

Did a couple of endrigs that weren't ploughed with the kv cultivator they look better than the rest of the field